[Noisebridge-discuss] "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People"

Ever Falling everfalling at gmail.com
Mon Jan 3 01:09:07 PST 2011


"My personal coping strategy: there are a handful of people who, when they
reply to an email thread, make that thread dead to me"

oh oh. is one of them me? please say it is. I want that power.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Shannon Lee <shannon at scatter.com> wrote:

> Gosh, that was very clever, how you noticed that this was aimed at you, and
> then turned it around and aimed it back at the person who sent it!  Astute.
>
> It's been the topic of much discussion, lately, whether you know what kind
> of impression you've been making.  Clearly you do.  Thank you for clarifying
> that.
>
> --S
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Your post smells like a troll.
>>
>> Asking everybody to create personal lists of people in "our community"
>> that they will either read or consistently ignore seems very
>> close-minded and childish.  Kinda defeats the purpose of a community,
>> no? It's also unfortunate that you feel the need to develop a "personal
>> coping strategy".
>>
>> Simply put, I think you are "being that guy".
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On 1/2/2011 9:50 PM, Josh Myer wrote:
>> > Interesting Google TechTalk from some key Subversion developers on their
>> > community management, and how to deal with "poisonous people."
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE
>> >
>> > Everyone should go watch that, and, as they discuss key problems with
>> > Poisonous People, ask yourself, "Am I being That Guy?"  If your'e not,
>> > think of people who are; you're sure to find a handful of them in the
>> > projects you're a part of.
>> >
>> > Relatedly, it's worth mentioning the Five Geek Social Fallacies again:
>> > http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html
>> >
>> > In particuarly, GSF#1: "Ostracizers are Evil," is appropriate here.
>> >   Poisonous people have to either work to get better or move on.  That's
>> > that.  We, as a community, need to be better about encouraging this kind
>> > of healthy reaction, instead of allowing our radical inclusivity to be
>> > used to allow abusive people to emotionally abuse our community.
>> >
>> > My personal coping strategy: there are a handful of people who, when
>> > they reply to an email thread, make that thread dead to me.  I'll read
>> > further replies from a small handful of people I trust to be really
>> > awesome, but, otherwise, I just ignore it. There are enough other
>> > reasonable people in the community; my particular input isn't unique nor
>> > necessary.  I encourage everyone else to take a minute and create their
>> > own list (I'm sure my name will grace a few), and try it for a while.
>> >   It makes the list a lot less irritating, and might be good for
>> > universal accord.
>> > --
>> > /jbm
>> >
>> >
>> >
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