[Noisebridge-discuss] Is Patrick Keys stealing from the donation jug?

Anselm Hook anselm at gmail.com
Mon Jan 3 13:12:19 PST 2011


Neutrally speaking as an outsider - the below seems like a hurtful
statement. It's made in public, it's an ad hominem attack.

The concern for me isn't even the speaker or the participants. I don't
care about either of them.

Regardless of what the issue is - it makes Noisebridge look bad as an
entity. Why are you all continuing to have Noisebridge exist at all?
It seems like an exercise in pain.

By way of example, I donate to GAFFTA but not Noisebridge. Undoubtably
I am sure the same drama, issues, personal tensions exist in any
organization. But it doesn't spill into outright damn the consequences
personal self aggrandizement threats and bellicose behavior; it's not
crude testosterone driven vulgarity. It's so unhealthy - it's not good
for any of you to have your emotions stirred up this way - to have
your point of view destabilized by silverback preening or shit
flinging.

It's time for me to unsubscribe. Comments like this make me want to
see the place go away. It is sick, the comments are sick, ugly and
unhealthy.

a


On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Hephaestus <hephaestus at antipunk.net> wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> You're un-excellent. You're a total douchenugget. Nobody likes you.
> I'm still kicking you out of the space the next time I see you.
>
> --
> Heph
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sleeping:
>> I have never slept here longer than a short nap. Ever. Any time I am
>> here at night or early in the morning.  You can ask anybody that's here
>> during that time (Isky, Robert, Benny, etc.).  My usual routine when I
>> am here late at night has been to drive Benny home in my car so he
>> doesn't have to walk.
>>
>> Stealing:
>> I have no need to steal.  Plus, a lot of food that's brought in here is
>> food that I pay for myself.  The alleged stealing is gossip that Robert
>> started two nights ago while he was, ahem, sleeping here overnight at
>> Noisebridge.  He also put up a curtain over the tea room and slept here
>> all last night.  He and I were the only two people here two nights ago.
>>  He awoke in the middle of sleeping in the Turing classroom, ran out of
>> the room for some bizarre reason, and then claimed to have heard a
>> noise.  He then blamed was my dog.  The next day, with no rhyme or
>> reason, without even discussing it with me, he began telling his buddy
>> Fabian behind my back that he was going to start personal private
>> investigations into me.
>>
>> On several occasions, I have - with witnesses watching - taken money
>> from the glass donation jar in the kitchen and moved it to the locked
>> jar specifically to prevent theft.  I also update the drink money page
>> whenever I take money from there.  When tastebridge money has been
>> spent, I've also provided a receipt for any expenses.
>>
>> I'm not a gossip, but a few nights ago a $20 bill mysteriously got
>> stolen from the drink donation box.  I counted the money before I left
>> at 4am to see how much money we had.  The next day, when it came time to
>> buy drinks, the $20 was missing.
>>
>> This is all ridiculously childish.
>>
>> Andy, it is unexcellent to accuse people of stealing, particularly when
>> it is not even you doing the accusing.  Instead, it's an "anonymous"
>> gossip that you're relaying.
>>
>> Gossip is un-excellent.
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/2011 11:37 AM, Alex Handy wrote:
>>> In the spirit of the openness that Patrick Keys has postulated, demanded, and yammered on about incessantly, I thought it only fair to air the accusations I was just made aware of:
>>>
>>> It is alleged that Patrick Keys has been seen taking money out of the donation boxes. This accusation was leveled by a fellow who claimed to see this take place at 3 AM while the witness was gaming at NB. I've been told others have seen him do this on other occasions, but rather than do things in the dark behind closed doors, I thought I'd ask the list if anyone else can corroborate. Maybe we can set up some sort of formal process for dealing with thieves  in the process!
>>>
>>>
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