[Noisebridge-discuss] "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People"

Albert Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Tue Jan 4 00:37:44 PST 2011


Patrick, I assure you that Josh is not "that guy".

-Al

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> wrote:
> Your post smells like a troll.
>
> Asking everybody to create personal lists of people in "our community"
> that they will either read or consistently ignore seems very
> close-minded and childish.  Kinda defeats the purpose of a community,
> no? It's also unfortunate that you feel the need to develop a "personal
> coping strategy".
>
> Simply put, I think you are "being that guy".
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> On 1/2/2011 9:50 PM, Josh Myer wrote:
>> Interesting Google TechTalk from some key Subversion developers on their
>> community management, and how to deal with "poisonous people."
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE
>>
>> Everyone should go watch that, and, as they discuss key problems with
>> Poisonous People, ask yourself, "Am I being That Guy?"  If your'e not,
>> think of people who are; you're sure to find a handful of them in the
>> projects you're a part of.
>>
>> Relatedly, it's worth mentioning the Five Geek Social Fallacies again:
>> http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html
>>
>> In particuarly, GSF#1: "Ostracizers are Evil," is appropriate here.
>>   Poisonous people have to either work to get better or move on.  That's
>> that.  We, as a community, need to be better about encouraging this kind
>> of healthy reaction, instead of allowing our radical inclusivity to be
>> used to allow abusive people to emotionally abuse our community.
>>
>> My personal coping strategy: there are a handful of people who, when
>> they reply to an email thread, make that thread dead to me.  I'll read
>> further replies from a small handful of people I trust to be really
>> awesome, but, otherwise, I just ignore it. There are enough other
>> reasonable people in the community; my particular input isn't unique nor
>> necessary.  I encourage everyone else to take a minute and create their
>> own list (I'm sure my name will grace a few), and try it for a while.
>>   It makes the list a lot less irritating, and might be good for
>> universal accord.
>> --
>> /jbm
>>
>>
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