[Noisebridge-discuss] driving multiple LEDs with minimal batteries

T t at of.net
Wed Jan 5 14:10:27 PST 2011


Outstanding.  A boost with a current limiter in a small package!

It that really is what it is, then Jim, in answer to your question, it would
seem that the output would be *up to* 30VDC, not 30VDC.  I.e. it would raise
voltage (as boost circuits do by definitiion) by cycling inductors or flying
caps or whatever at the appropriate rate to get the spec'd current limit or
30VDC, whichever is lower.

The beauty of this family of circuits (boost and buck and active current
limiter) is that there's logic that controls the frequency or duty cycle of
switching components to get the desired voltage or current instead of a
resistor that wastes some of the energy.

T

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:18, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:

>
>
>   i'm curious as to the power aspect:
>
>   assuming an AA battery and a black box gizmo that
> converts input voltage to 30 VDC out, connecting one
> LED requires a current limiting resistor. connecting
> two LEDS requires a smaller current limiting resistor.
> more LEDs, smaller current limiting resistor....
>   having not done it, i don't know that some number
> of LEDs requires no current limiting resistor, is
> that the case? if so, then i'm guessing the internal
> series resistance of the power supply (the black box
> gizmo and/or the battery) provides the limit, yes?
>   regardless, it seems that each LED represents
> power consumption of current times voltage drop
> across the device. a few LEDs presents no problem,
> but above a certain number, it seems there may be
> some kind of failure, possibly dimmer LEDs or hotter
> battery or blackbox gizmo weirdness or....
>
>   what's the truth about this?
>
> with thanks
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 12:02 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > It's Rolf, copied on this.
> >
> > On 01/05/2011 11:49 AM, Jake wrote:
> > > There was a guy who came to Circuit Hacking Mondays who made these tiny
> > > circuitboards with a Linear Technologies chip that boosted power from a
> > > low voltage to up to 30 volts with a set current limit.  He brought
> them
> > > to CHM as a kit i think, and was making umbrellas with hanging lights.
> > >
> > > Mitch or Miloh will know who i'm speaking of.  He was really tall and
> thin
> > > and older than Miloh...
> > >
> > > anyway the great awesomeness of his kit is like this:  you hook up a
> > > battery to it (a single AA, rechargable or not) or a lithium-whatever,
> it
> > > doesn't care - and it will work.
> > >
> > > On the output side, you simply wire all your LEDs in series - one after
> > > another, any colors, no resistors necessary - and the thing will power
> > > them all with the same current.  Regardless of the state of the battery
> > > (until it is empty)  Up to 30v or 10-15 LEDs in series per board.
> > >
> > > I think the appropriate way to power a scarf is with a single AA sized
> > > battery.  People can use a disposable battery but a rechargable AA is
> > > ubiquitous and appropriate, and an be charged separately from the
> scarf.
> > > And a scarf is something that will hopefully outlast any LiFePo battery
> or
> > > NiMH cell, so it has to be a standard, replaceable cell like a AA.
> > >
> > > -jake
> > >
> > > ---- original mess ----
> > >
> > > I'd like to do a soft circuit scarf or three, but I'm always running up
> > > against the problem of power. I usually use fairly low power LEDs
> > > (<2v) driven by a 9v battery or one of sparkfun's LiPos.
> > > I've heard tell of somehow being able to power more, but I'm still
> > > learning
> > > this EE stuff. Could some kind person point me in the right direction?
> > > Meredith
> > >
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