[Noisebridge-discuss] global hackerspace cupcake competition

Lilia Markham liliakai at gmail.com
Thu Jan 6 16:45:07 PST 2011


maybe something more like this?

http://www.stress.com/consumertier3.php?pid=307

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah - I was looking at these thingies. Here's a link:
>
> http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/frh.html
>
> However, I feel this is another one of those times that the intarweb is not
> a reliable source. These two lines are within a bulleted list of each other
> on the same page:
>
> -"An FRH heats food without the need for fire - safely and quickly" ...
> sounds like a great solution, no?!
> -"Vapors released by activated heater contain hydrogen, a flammable gas."
> ... which is sort of the opposite of "safely"...particularly in an enclosed
> space like we'll have
>
> Something tells me that when the DHS sees a package that can generate
> hydrogen with a bunch of wires attached to it in an enclosed space, the big
> red $100mil$ TERRERIST warning light will start flashing somewhere and a
> door will get kicked in. Suck. Though it could be really funny since they'll
> spend hours analyzing the cupcake batter trying to figure out what kind of
> explosive it is.
>
> Sean
>
> P.S.> I particularly like the illustration in the instructions that
> designates you should be using a "rock or something". Wow. Way to go private
> IQ 35.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Foote <jtfoote at ieee.org> wrote:
>
>> Aren't there all kinds of crazy exothermic reactions -- like NaOH +
>> H2O -- that the military uses to heat prepackaged food and such?
>> Likely too reactive to ship without hazmat status, but...?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I was actually just talking over this idea with the other chemists at
>> lunch,
>> > and I think it would be unlikely that we'll be able to generate enough
>> heat
>> > out of these without using a retarded amount - like about 100 or so
>> (damn
>> > you thermodynamics!). We could maybe build a super-insulated box with a
>> > thermocouple in it to see how hot one of them gets, and then try to
>> scale
>> > it...
>> >
>> > Sean
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Lilia Markham <liliakai at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a surplus of hand warming packets that i can bring if anyone
>> wants
>> >> to experiment with them...
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm down with doing the freezing stuff on the 15th. I can arrange to
>> get
>> >>> the cold shit over to noisebridge.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sean
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM, meredith scheff <satiredun at gmail.com
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Now we're getting into Shipyard style packing :)
>> >>>> Seems we have a battle of Hot Ideas and Cold Ideas.
>> >>>> I like the handwarmer idea on principle, but two things:
>> >>>> They never get anywhere near 350
>> >>>> icing is important!
>> >>>> I really like the freeze the fuck out of it solution.
>> >>>> When is the day? the 15th? I vote we make as many ideas as possible.
>> >>>> mer
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Michael Shiloh
>> >>>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is it possible to cook rapidly by using some sort of explosion? Can
>> >>>>> this
>> >>>>> be controlled sufficiently for cooking?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 01/06/2011 12:03 PM, Lilia Markham wrote:
>> >>>>> > If we can just prevent the receiving hackerspace from ever opening
>> >>>>> > the
>> >>>>> > package, our cupcake would occupy a superposition of all possible
>> >>>>> > cupcake states. We can decorate it with a little icing cat face.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Sean Cusack <
>> sean.p.cusack at gmail.com
>> >>>>> > <mailto:sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >     The handwarmers thing could totally work, right? We don't need
>> it
>> >>>>> > to
>> >>>>> >     stay hot for hours, just 350 - 400 for like 30 minutes! If we
>> do
>> >>>>> > a
>> >>>>> >     good enough job with the insulation, the UPS guy shouldn't
>> even
>> >>>>> > know
>> >>>>> >     anything happened. Worst case, if DHS confiscates out
>> >>>>> > cupcake...I'd
>> >>>>> >     laugh my ass off. The terrorcake strikes again!!!!!
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >     I think the kicker would be activating the handwarmers at the
>> >>>>> > right
>> >>>>> >     time, and only the right time. I think the handwarmers
>> activate
>> >>>>> > upon
>> >>>>> >     touching air, right? I wonder if we could open a bunch of them
>> in
>> >>>>> > a
>> >>>>> >     glovebox and put them into an inert box with the ready to bake
>> >>>>> >     cupcake. The inert box would have a little door on it that
>> could
>> >>>>> >     open when an Arduino uses some craaazy GPS wizardry thingy to
>> >>>>> >     determine when the UPS guy is almost at the destination.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >     What do people think? Is this reasonable? We don't do anything
>> >>>>> > air
>> >>>>> >     sensitive enough in my lab to warrant a glovebox though.
>> Anyone
>> >>>>> > have
>> >>>>> >     access to something like that?
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >     Sean
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >     On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Lilia Markham <
>> liliakai at gmail.com
>> >>>>> >     <mailto:liliakai at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >         If we deliberately make the package look like a bomb, will
>> it
>> >>>>> >         receive more delicate handling??
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >         public archive disclaimer: the above question is intended
>> to
>> >>>>> > be
>> >>>>> >         farcical and humorous. I do not in any way condone sending
>> >>>>> >         suspicious looking things through the us postal service.
>> also
>> >>>>> > i
>> >>>>> >         love my country and all the federal agents reading my
>> email
>> >>>>> > and
>> >>>>> >         their families.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >         On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Patrick Keys
>> >>>>> >         <citizenkeys at gmail.com <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >             Is this a cupcake or a bomb? Our cupcake "package" is
>> >>>>> > going
>> >>>>> >             to get
>> >>>>> >             confiscated by Homeland Security and never arrive at
>> its
>> >>>>> >             destination.
>> >>>>> >             The unabomber of cupcakes.
>> >>>>> >             :-)
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >             Patrick
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >             On 1/5/2011 6:18 PM, Liz Henry wrote:
>> >>>>> >              > On 1/5/11 5:42 PM, Lilia Markham wrote:
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              >> I liked the idea of a self-baking cupcake. In fact
>> I
>> >>>>> >             have had multiple
>> >>>>> >              >> conversations theorizing portable, self-baking
>> cakes
>> >>>>> > and
>> >>>>> >             cookies in the
>> >>>>> >              >> past. They would be great for camping,
>> picnics...car
>> >>>>> >             eaters? (We're gonna be
>> >>>>> >              >> so rich!) Sadly, I fear that the only way to
>> generate
>> >>>>> >             the necessary heat  is
>> >>>>> >              >> to include some form of auto-igniting flammable
>> >>>>> >             materials or questionable
>> >>>>> >              >> chemicals. The post office just loves when you
>> send
>> >>>>> > that
>> >>>>> >             kind of stuff
>> >>>>> >              >> through the mail. :-\
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              > I wonder if a cupcake could bake very very slowly
>> >>>>> > using those
>> >>>>> >              > handwarmers you can buy in a drugstore? Or for
>> skiing?
>> >>>>> >               They don't get
>> >>>>> >              > very hot. But maybe they could be rigged up to
>> break
>> >>>>> > when
>> >>>>> >             a box is
>> >>>>> >              > opened, and then the cooking device would open up
>> >>>>> > based
>> >>>>> >             on a timer.
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              > Or, ship a cupcake positioned inside an EZ-bake
>> oven,
>> >>>>> >             maybe just by
>> >>>>> >              > being completely encased in foil, with a power
>> source
>> >>>>> >             connected to the
>> >>>>> >              > EZ Bake Oven, with a switch that is turned on by
>> >>>>> > opening
>> >>>>> >             the box.  The
>> >>>>> >              > sugary topping could be ... uh that is where I lose
>> >>>>> > it.
>> >>>>> >               Sugary topping.
>> >>>>> >              > Hmmm.
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              > - Liz
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              >
>> >>>>> >              >
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