[Noisebridge-discuss] global hackerspace cupcake competition

Lilia Markham liliakai at gmail.com
Thu Jan 6 17:00:45 PST 2011


Or, more to the point,

http://www.google.com/search?q=self+heating+can

Also, why not combine the best of both worlds? A self-defrosting frozen
cupcake would be awesome!


On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Lilia Markham <liliakai at gmail.com> wrote:

> maybe something more like this?
>
> http://www.stress.com/consumertier3.php?pid=307
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yeah - I was looking at these thingies. Here's a link:
>>
>> http://www.mreinfo.com/us/mre/frh.html
>>
>> However, I feel this is another one of those times that the intarweb is
>> not a reliable source. These two lines are within a bulleted list of each
>> other on the same page:
>>
>> -"An FRH heats food without the need for fire - safely and quickly" ...
>> sounds like a great solution, no?!
>> -"Vapors released by activated heater contain hydrogen, a flammable gas."
>> ... which is sort of the opposite of "safely"...particularly in an enclosed
>> space like we'll have
>>
>> Something tells me that when the DHS sees a package that can generate
>> hydrogen with a bunch of wires attached to it in an enclosed space, the big
>> red $100mil$ TERRERIST warning light will start flashing somewhere and a
>> door will get kicked in. Suck. Though it could be really funny since they'll
>> spend hours analyzing the cupcake batter trying to figure out what kind of
>> explosive it is.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> P.S.> I particularly like the illustration in the instructions that
>> designates you should be using a "rock or something". Wow. Way to go private
>> IQ 35.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Foote <jtfoote at ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Aren't there all kinds of crazy exothermic reactions -- like NaOH +
>>> H2O -- that the military uses to heat prepackaged food and such?
>>> Likely too reactive to ship without hazmat status, but...?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I was actually just talking over this idea with the other chemists at
>>> lunch,
>>> > and I think it would be unlikely that we'll be able to generate enough
>>> heat
>>> > out of these without using a retarded amount - like about 100 or so
>>> (damn
>>> > you thermodynamics!). We could maybe build a super-insulated box with a
>>> > thermocouple in it to see how hot one of them gets, and then try to
>>> scale
>>> > it...
>>> >
>>> > Sean
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Lilia Markham <liliakai at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I have a surplus of hand warming packets that i can bring if anyone
>>> wants
>>> >> to experiment with them...
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Sean Cusack <sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm down with doing the freezing stuff on the 15th. I can arrange to
>>> get
>>> >>> the cold shit over to noisebridge.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sean
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM, meredith scheff <
>>> satiredun at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Now we're getting into Shipyard style packing :)
>>> >>>> Seems we have a battle of Hot Ideas and Cold Ideas.
>>> >>>> I like the handwarmer idea on principle, but two things:
>>> >>>> They never get anywhere near 350
>>> >>>> icing is important!
>>> >>>> I really like the freeze the fuck out of it solution.
>>> >>>> When is the day? the 15th? I vote we make as many ideas as possible.
>>> >>>> mer
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Michael Shiloh
>>> >>>> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Is it possible to cook rapidly by using some sort of explosion? Can
>>> >>>>> this
>>> >>>>> be controlled sufficiently for cooking?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 01/06/2011 12:03 PM, Lilia Markham wrote:
>>> >>>>> > If we can just prevent the receiving hackerspace from ever
>>> opening
>>> >>>>> > the
>>> >>>>> > package, our cupcake would occupy a superposition of all possible
>>> >>>>> > cupcake states. We can decorate it with a little icing cat face.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Sean Cusack <
>>> sean.p.cusack at gmail.com
>>> >>>>> > <mailto:sean.p.cusack at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >     The handwarmers thing could totally work, right? We don't
>>> need it
>>> >>>>> > to
>>> >>>>> >     stay hot for hours, just 350 - 400 for like 30 minutes! If we
>>> do
>>> >>>>> > a
>>> >>>>> >     good enough job with the insulation, the UPS guy shouldn't
>>> even
>>> >>>>> > know
>>> >>>>> >     anything happened. Worst case, if DHS confiscates out
>>> >>>>> > cupcake...I'd
>>> >>>>> >     laugh my ass off. The terrorcake strikes again!!!!!
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >     I think the kicker would be activating the handwarmers at the
>>> >>>>> > right
>>> >>>>> >     time, and only the right time. I think the handwarmers
>>> activate
>>> >>>>> > upon
>>> >>>>> >     touching air, right? I wonder if we could open a bunch of
>>> them in
>>> >>>>> > a
>>> >>>>> >     glovebox and put them into an inert box with the ready to
>>> bake
>>> >>>>> >     cupcake. The inert box would have a little door on it that
>>> could
>>> >>>>> >     open when an Arduino uses some craaazy GPS wizardry thingy to
>>> >>>>> >     determine when the UPS guy is almost at the destination.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >     What do people think? Is this reasonable? We don't do
>>> anything
>>> >>>>> > air
>>> >>>>> >     sensitive enough in my lab to warrant a glovebox though.
>>> Anyone
>>> >>>>> > have
>>> >>>>> >     access to something like that?
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >     Sean
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >     On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Lilia Markham <
>>> liliakai at gmail.com
>>> >>>>> >     <mailto:liliakai at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >         If we deliberately make the package look like a bomb,
>>> will it
>>> >>>>> >         receive more delicate handling??
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >         public archive disclaimer: the above question is intended
>>> to
>>> >>>>> > be
>>> >>>>> >         farcical and humorous. I do not in any way condone
>>> sending
>>> >>>>> >         suspicious looking things through the us postal service.
>>> also
>>> >>>>> > i
>>> >>>>> >         love my country and all the federal agents reading my
>>> email
>>> >>>>> > and
>>> >>>>> >         their families.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >         On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Patrick Keys
>>> >>>>> >         <citizenkeys at gmail.com <mailto:citizenkeys at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >             Is this a cupcake or a bomb? Our cupcake "package" is
>>> >>>>> > going
>>> >>>>> >             to get
>>> >>>>> >             confiscated by Homeland Security and never arrive at
>>> its
>>> >>>>> >             destination.
>>> >>>>> >             The unabomber of cupcakes.
>>> >>>>> >             :-)
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >             Patrick
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >             On 1/5/2011 6:18 PM, Liz Henry wrote:
>>> >>>>> >              > On 1/5/11 5:42 PM, Lilia Markham wrote:
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              >> I liked the idea of a self-baking cupcake. In
>>> fact I
>>> >>>>> >             have had multiple
>>> >>>>> >              >> conversations theorizing portable, self-baking
>>> cakes
>>> >>>>> > and
>>> >>>>> >             cookies in the
>>> >>>>> >              >> past. They would be great for camping,
>>> picnics...car
>>> >>>>> >             eaters? (We're gonna be
>>> >>>>> >              >> so rich!) Sadly, I fear that the only way to
>>> generate
>>> >>>>> >             the necessary heat  is
>>> >>>>> >              >> to include some form of auto-igniting flammable
>>> >>>>> >             materials or questionable
>>> >>>>> >              >> chemicals. The post office just loves when you
>>> send
>>> >>>>> > that
>>> >>>>> >             kind of stuff
>>> >>>>> >              >> through the mail. :-\
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              > I wonder if a cupcake could bake very very slowly
>>> >>>>> > using those
>>> >>>>> >              > handwarmers you can buy in a drugstore? Or for
>>> skiing?
>>> >>>>> >               They don't get
>>> >>>>> >              > very hot. But maybe they could be rigged up to
>>> break
>>> >>>>> > when
>>> >>>>> >             a box is
>>> >>>>> >              > opened, and then the cooking device would open up
>>> >>>>> > based
>>> >>>>> >             on a timer.
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              > Or, ship a cupcake positioned inside an EZ-bake
>>> oven,
>>> >>>>> >             maybe just by
>>> >>>>> >              > being completely encased in foil, with a power
>>> source
>>> >>>>> >             connected to the
>>> >>>>> >              > EZ Bake Oven, with a switch that is turned on by
>>> >>>>> > opening
>>> >>>>> >             the box.  The
>>> >>>>> >              > sugary topping could be ... uh that is where I
>>> lose
>>> >>>>> > it.
>>> >>>>> >               Sugary topping.
>>> >>>>> >              > Hmmm.
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              > - Liz
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              >
>>> >>>>> >              >
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