[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge-discuss: mailing list versus forum system
asweigart at gmail.com
Thu Jan 27 11:12:24 PST 2011
I've set up the forum for Noisebridge:
It's the Vanilla bb software. You can log in with Google or OpenID.
It's hosted on my DreamHost account (I could use 10x the bandwidth I
use now and not come anywhere near my monthly limit.) I can make
Email me any comments you have about this setup, or any themes you'd
like (right now it uses the default, and there's a mobile phone
version as well.)
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> For me, "locally hosted" does not necessarily mean
> box in the space, rather box that we, noisebridge people,
> can get at, physically if necessary. There's something
> hackerly about access to the silicon and metal itself,
> though probably ineffable.
> It also means as much freedom from shifts in some
> other entity's policies as possible, which is the big
> deal for me.
> A possibly useful comparison is between renting a
> VM on a monthly basis from go grid on one hand and
> maintaining a box in a monkey brains rack at 200 Paul.
> both are subject to policies, but we get to visit our
> box and pet it and such, unlike the vm. granted the vm
> is more scaleable and reliable, but those don't seem
> important aspects to hackers. and we can move the box
> to another entity, which is different from moving the
> vm to another hosting entity.
> On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 10:35 -0800, Dr. Jesus wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:41 PM, aestetix aestetix <aestetix at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'd really not rather use something that's not locally hosted. What if their
>> > system had a malfunction and we couldn't get access to troubleshoot it?
>> You use the out of band management card. Most people aren't aware of
>> how much control RMCP and similar protocols give the ops folks these
>> days. Look at the feature set for Intel AMT 6, for example. You can
>> reflash the BIOS over the network without even turning the computer on
>> now. ASF 2.0 lets you turn computers on and lock out the local
>> console, too.
>> > Also, global politics aside, I don't like someone who is not a Noisebridger
>> > having the "god key" to enable or disable the entire system.
>> > Further, regardless of the complexity, if we have something local, we can
>> > modify it, and even create new modules and patches for it.
>> Why does the physical proximity to the machine have anything to do
>> with the hackability of its software? Root is root.
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