[Noisebridge-discuss] more member shelves = more happy members = more NB income

Albert Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Mon Jan 31 10:41:08 PST 2011


I think the "we can't have locks because someone will destroy them"
meme that Noisebridge has is overrated. Destroying other people's
property is such a douchebag thing to do that I doubt anyone feels
strong enough to do it.

Meanwhile, having locks would provide some (emphasis on "some")
assurance that you could bring a Nice Thing to noisebridge and not
have it simply walk off.

There are some logistical issues about having public/common
Noisebridge resources behind a lock (who has the keys/are they around
often/blah blah blah), but I don't see a reason people can't put one
on their member shelf.

-Al


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
> As a reminder, when I last heard, having a hack self was not necessarily a benefit of membership. Non members could have  shelves.
>
> When I last saw an argument for having more shelves, I believe it was left to anyone who wanted to buy, install and find room for more shelves.
>
> Additionally, having locked resources has always been a source of contention at Noisebridge. It's possible that some people would cut locks just for the principle.
>
> With all of that said, if you think more shelves would benefit Noisebridge, I suggest going out to buy (or help build) some. You have mentioned offering transportation to individuals, so you may be able to transport these. If you don't have the money for shelves, you may ask individuals for donations for the purpose of buying one.
>
> In summary, great idea. Make it happen (be warned about the locks though) abd that there isn't such a clear idea about hack/member shelves. You don't need permissions to make shelves for the space.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Glen
>
> El Jan 30, 2011, a las 11:34 PM, Patrick Keys <citizenkeys at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> More Member Shelves
>> -----------------------
>> noisebridge could use more member shelves.
>> more member shelves means we could accomodate more members and thereby
>> have more membership income (theoretically).
>>
>> One Size Does Not Fit All
>> --------------------------
>> personally, i think we could accomodate everybody better if we had
>> different sized shelves.
>> people that don't need much space could use smaller shelves.
>> people that need more space could use bigger shelves.
>> think of the shelves like post office boxes, with smaller ones higher up
>> and larger ones for heavier stuff closer to the ground.
>>
>> Safety In Numbers
>> ---------------------------
>> we could number the shelves, thereby making it easier to at least know
>> who has what shelf.
>> numbers are also more anonymous than having to write your name on the shelf.
>> You know what number shelf your stuff is in and nobody else does (unless
>> they physically see you come and go from the shelf).
>>
>> Out of Sight, Out of Mind
>> ---------------------------
>> shannon had mentioned making shelves way back when with doors on them.
>> with doors on the shelves, they could be BYOL ("bring your own lock").
>> also, having shelves with doors makes stuff "out of sight, out of mind"
>> for anybody with sticky fingers.
>>
>> Hack Shelf
>> --------------------------
>> The hack shelf shares the space with the member shelves right now.
>> Moving the hack shelf separate from the member shelves might result in
>> stuff on the hack shelf getting used more often, which would be a good
>> thing.
>>
>> Consensing on a Plan
>> --------------------------
>> If we can consense on a plan for new, improved member shelves, then we
>> can organize the budget and resources necessary to get the job done.
>> Then its simply a matter of getting them built and installed.
>>
>> Feedback
>> --------------------------
>> Anybody have any comments about new/improved/increased member shelves?
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick
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