[Noisebridge-discuss] Elevator repair

Ryan Rawson ryanobjc at gmail.com
Mon Jan 31 16:42:39 PST 2011

The elevator at my apartment has been fixed a bunch of times, and I
dont seem to recall any inspection that was triggered as a result of

In fact, the elevator permit has been expired for at least a year, and
a letter from the oakland inspection office notes that while a permit
is in progress you can't get in trouble for not having a permit.

I think there is a difference between "fixing to make work as was
designed/intended" and "upgrading to be better".  I'm not sure exactly
what the difference is though.


On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:39 PM, David Stainton <dstainton415 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think this is correct because I recall an elevator repair
> person "fixing" our elevator
> in the early days of 2169.
> David
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Rachel McConnell <rachel at xtreme.com> wrote:
>> My understanding is that if an elevator repair person were brought in to
>> fix the elevator, then it would lose whatever grandfathered status it
>> has and city code would require vastly more upgrades to it than the
>> landlords are interested in paying for.  Which is why we've been hacking
>> it in various ways since we moved in.  I don't remember where this
>> understanding came from though, so it could be wrong.
>> I'll return to thinking about other options.  It would be simple to run
>> another button that maybe just makes a Different buzz upstairs, and
>> turns on a light saying "Elevator Help Please" or some such.  I actually
>> like that better than the walky-talky idea anyway.
>> Rachel
>> Jake wrote:
>>>> Wait you debugged the elevator?  Let's fix it then!  Having it
>>>> actually work properly would be the best solution.  I'll be happy to
>>>> be the one to Do it if you can show me this microswitch of which you
>>>> speak.
>>> i am just mentally picturing the problem.  The elevator comes to our
>>> floor, which is the top floor, and there's a button "A" on the rail to
>>> keep it from going too far.  There is another button "B" which tells the
>>> system that it's on the third floor, and is ready to be called to
>>> another floor because it's done moving around.  The button "A" is being
>>> triggered before button "B" and the elevator stops moving before it
>>> really "arrives" at the third floor.
>>> When one goes in there and presses the 3 button again, the button
>>> bypasses the stop switch for long enough to run the motor enough to bump
>>> it up a quarter-inch until it presses button "B" telling the system it's
>>> arrived at the third floor and everything is okay.
>>> It might not be as simple as adjustment however, because it could be
>>> that the capacitor or diode protecting the buttons' contacts from the
>>> inductive kick of the relay it triggers has failed to protect the button
>>> contacts, and the button needs to be replaced.  Only an
>>> elevator-repairfolk will have the exact correct replacement button, and
>>> really know how to adjust it.
>>> As much as I would be okay with getting covered in grease and mouse-shit
>>> trying to find both buttons and adjusting them, and hoping that the
>>> problem is only adjustment (which is slightly unlikely) i think it's
>>> probably better to have the repair made by the professional.  However if
>>> the landlord/property owner flat-out says that they'd rather us try to
>>> fix it first, we should go for it.
>>> But at this point, with the elevators' behavior properly sussed out (the
>>> note on the door is excellent) it should be easy for a repairperson to
>>> do the job without wasting too much time.
>>> -jake
>>>>> Another option for elevator love is to install a little dinger-chimer
>>>>> thing which "reminds" people that the red light is on upstairs, meaning
>>>>> the elevator needs to be "jiggled" so that it can be called downstairs.
>>>>> Another option would be to move the microswitch on the elevator rails a
>>>>> quarter or a half inch higher, because whats happening right now is that
>>>>> the elevator stops moving upward because of switch A but before pressing
>>>>> on switch B which is the one that allows the elevator to be called.
>>>>> But that's probably something we are not supposed to be messing with.
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