[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeper problem/Kitchen cleanliness

Taylor Alexander tlalexander at gmail.com
Fri Jul 15 12:57:56 PDT 2011


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> We can get a dishwasher for around 400$ (though we might want to talk about
> energy and portability issues). If people are interested I will pitch in the
> first 100. I will need help to transport and install though.
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Actually it looks like they can be had for much cheaper than that:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/app/2496030821.html
(That one is brand new. $280. Only $350 normally)







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> On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:22 PM, jim wrote:
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> > Thank you.
> >    I like Lennie and know him well enough to vouch
> > for him if he wants to be a member.
> >    This sleeping thing is a problem.
> >    I dislike rule-making. I like that people join
> > together to support each other. I'll try to do that--
> > i.e. show up in the early AM and roust sleepers
> >    The dishes are, in my view, the more serious
> > symptom (of what exactly I can't find the words--
> > something like neglect or not carrying one's
> > weight...). The only approach I can think of is to
> > yell out loud "who's dishes are these?" and go
> > around scowling at everybody while repeating the
> > question. I'm open to an improved approach.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 11:55 -0700, Al Sweigart wrote:
> >> I came to Noisebridge this morning to check for sleepers. I haven't
> >> done so in a while. There were about half a dozen people up and
> >> working on stuff, and two people crashed on couches and chairs.
> >>
> >> One them was Lennie, who's a new guy who started coming to the space a
> >> month or two ago. I bring this up in particular because this is the
> >> third time I've found him sleeping at the space. As usual, I woke him
> >> up and talked to him a bit about Noisebridge's sleeper problem and
> >> then asked him to leave. (When I wake people up and don't ask people
> >> to leave, they just go back to crashing at Noisebridge when I walk out
> >> the door. I've checked.)
> >>
> >> I was polite, he was polite. He explained that he was just taking a
> >> short nap and not sleeping (which was the same explanation he gave the
> >> first two times, and it wasn't very believable then either.) He said
> >> he thought it was disrespectful to wake people up and ask them to
> >> leave. He implied that people stopped hanging around the space because
> >> I was waking up sleepers in the morning (I usually arrive between 6am
> >> and 7am), and some other guilt-trip remarks. His stalling went on for
> >> about half an hour, but I kept replying that he's free to work all
> >> night at Noisebridge but needs to make plans for getting home before
> >> he gets sleepy, and that he still had to leave this morning. Lennie
> >> packed up and walked over to Mitch and spent another half hour
> >> explaining himself, and finally left. I left a little bit later. After
> >> I got on my bike and was riding away I noticed he was back at the
> >> Noisebridge gate.
> >>
> >> This isn't a one-off thing, and Lennie never said he'd stop doing it.
> >> Talking to him about doesn't phase him one bit. If this becomes a
> >> problem again (and tell me if it does), I'm going to tell Lennie to
> >> stop coming to Noisebridge.
> >>
> >> -Al
> >>
> >> Also, the sinks were full of dishes, there were fruit flies hovering
> >> around food that had been left out, and vegetables are being stored in
> >> unsealed containers again where the rats can get to them. On the plus
> >> side, the kitchen counters were clean and the hackers-to-sleepers
> >> ratio is a complete inversion of what it was a couple weeks ago.
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