[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeper problem.

girlgeek girlgeek at wt.net
Mon Jul 18 12:16:35 PDT 2011


Nice idea.  Can I sit at the edge of the kitchen with a whip to enforce 
the punishment?  Now that my teen is leaving home ( for college)  I may 
get bored.
-Claudia

On 7/18/2011 3:43 AM, Frantisek Apfelbeck wrote:
> And what about something like "capital dish punishment". If you are catch in the
> place sleeping you would be told not too and as a practical consequence of your
> "wrong' doing you would be enslaved to do dishes for hour or so. That may be
> handy and may sink in the memory bit better.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Frantisek
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jim<jim at well.com>
> To: Al Sweigart<asweigart at gmail.com>
> Cc: noisebridge-discuss<noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Sent: Fri, July 15, 2011 8:22:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeper problem.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>      I like Lennie and know him well enough to vouch
> for him if he wants to be a member.
>      This sleeping thing is a problem.
>      I dislike rule-making. I like that people join
> together to support each other. I'll try to do that--
> i.e. show up in the early AM and roust sleepers
>      The dishes are, in my view, the more serious
> symptom (of what exactly I can't find the words--
> something like neglect or not carrying one's
> weight...). The only approach I can think of is to
> yell out loud "who's dishes are these?" and go
> around scowling at everybody while repeating the
> question. I'm open to an improved approach.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 11:55 -0700, Al Sweigart wrote:
>> I came to Noisebridge this morning to check for sleepers. I haven't
>> done so in a while. There were about half a dozen people up and
>> working on stuff, and two people crashed on couches and chairs.
>>
>> One them was Lennie, who's a new guy who started coming to the space a
>> month or two ago. I bring this up in particular because this is the
>> third time I've found him sleeping at the space. As usual, I woke him
>> up and talked to him a bit about Noisebridge's sleeper problem and
>> then asked him to leave. (When I wake people up and don't ask people
>> to leave, they just go back to crashing at Noisebridge when I walk out
>> the door. I've checked.)
>>
>> I was polite, he was polite. He explained that he was just taking a
>> short nap and not sleeping (which was the same explanation he gave the
>> first two times, and it wasn't very believable then either.) He said
>> he thought it was disrespectful to wake people up and ask them to
>> leave. He implied that people stopped hanging around the space because
>> I was waking up sleepers in the morning (I usually arrive between 6am
>> and 7am), and some other guilt-trip remarks. His stalling went on for
>> about half an hour, but I kept replying that he's free to work all
>> night at Noisebridge but needs to make plans for getting home before
>> he gets sleepy, and that he still had to leave this morning. Lennie
>> packed up and walked over to Mitch and spent another half hour
>> explaining himself, and finally left. I left a little bit later. After
>> I got on my bike and was riding away I noticed he was back at the
>> Noisebridge gate.
>>
>> This isn't a one-off thing, and Lennie never said he'd stop doing it.
>> Talking to him about doesn't phase him one bit. If this becomes a
>> problem again (and tell me if it does), I'm going to tell Lennie to
>> stop coming to Noisebridge.
>>
>> -Al
>>
>> Also, the sinks were full of dishes, there were fruit flies hovering
>> around food that had been left out, and vegetables are being stored in
>> unsealed containers again where the rats can get to them. On the plus
>> side, the kitchen counters were clean and the hackers-to-sleepers
>> ratio is a complete inversion of what it was a couple weeks ago.
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