[Noisebridge-discuss] update on the shrine!

Christina Olson daravinne at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 16:05:43 PDT 2011


The most offensive aspect of this whole thing is that Buddhism is getting
practiced as a religion.



On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>wrote:

> On 07/18/2011 06:16 PM, Jason Dusek wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:26, Michael C. Toren <mct at toren.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Rameen wrote:
> >>> It seems like the main issue is that the Church class was
> >>> being rearranged.
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >> The main issue, for many people, was that the shrine was being
> >> used in a religious context.
> >
> > That this is an issue is a concern of mine. If it was, so what?
> > A space that can accept so many other things can not accept the
> > exercize of the Buddhist religion? I don't see on what basis we
> > can do that. Personal dislike of religion?
> >
>
> The "so what" is that some people are not comfortable with it -
> especially given the example of "how" it was done. You seem to
> understand the latter but take issue with people taking issue in the
> former case. Huh.
>
> > The Rinpoche is not representative of organized religion in any
> > sense; by that I mean, there is no lineage of Asian Buddhism to
> > which he can be assigned, despite his adoption of the manner and
> > titles of a few different lineages. There is thus no real
> > exercize of religion here; so what should we call it?
>
> The issue is not a matter of organisation. It does not matter if you
> accept their "faith" or "practice " or whatever you'd like to call it.
>
> Rinpoche's actions sound annoying and incompatible with Noisebridge. It
> appears that his conflict resolution skills are also incompatible with
> Noisebridge. Perhaps I'm mistaken?
>
> Obviously people aren't happy with the Rinpoche's appropriation of the
> space for whatever spiritual or non-spiritual quest he's undertaken.
>
> ( His crazy faith looks just as crazy as every other from where I'm
> sitting. )
>
> All the best,
> Jake
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