[Noisebridge-discuss] update on the shrine!

girlgeek girlgeek at wt.net
Mon Jul 18 17:42:06 PDT 2011


Jake,
What, properly, is Buddhism?
-Claudia
On 7/18/2011 4:05 PM, Christina Olson wrote:
> The most offensive aspect of this whole thing is that Buddhism is 
> getting practiced as a religion.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net 
> <mailto:jacob at appelbaum.net>> wrote:
>
>     On 07/18/2011 06:16 PM, Jason Dusek wrote:
>     > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:26, Michael C. Toren <mct at toren.net
>     <mailto:mct at toren.net>> wrote:
>     >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Rameen wrote:
>     >>> It seems like the main issue is that the Church class was
>     >>> being rearranged.
>     >>
>     >> No.
>     >>
>     >> The main issue, for many people, was that the shrine was being
>     >> used in a religious context.
>     >
>     > That this is an issue is a concern of mine. If it was, so what?
>     > A space that can accept so many other things can not accept the
>     > exercize of the Buddhist religion? I don't see on what basis we
>     > can do that. Personal dislike of religion?
>     >
>
>     The "so what" is that some people are not comfortable with it -
>     especially given the example of "how" it was done. You seem to
>     understand the latter but take issue with people taking issue in the
>     former case. Huh.
>
>     > The Rinpoche is not representative of organized religion in any
>     > sense; by that I mean, there is no lineage of Asian Buddhism to
>     > which he can be assigned, despite his adoption of the manner and
>     > titles of a few different lineages. There is thus no real
>     > exercize of religion here; so what should we call it?
>
>     The issue is not a matter of organisation. It does not matter if you
>     accept their "faith" or "practice " or whatever you'd like to call it.
>
>     Rinpoche's actions sound annoying and incompatible with
>     Noisebridge. It
>     appears that his conflict resolution skills are also incompatible with
>     Noisebridge. Perhaps I'm mistaken?
>
>     Obviously people aren't happy with the Rinpoche's appropriation of the
>     space for whatever spiritual or non-spiritual quest he's undertaken.
>
>     ( His crazy faith looks just as crazy as every other from where I'm
>     sitting. )
>
>     All the best,
>     Jake
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