[Noisebridge-discuss] Paid for cleaners, have they ever come by the space?

Duncan duncan at justduncan.com
Thu Nov 17 01:38:29 PST 2011

Rubin's core question remains unanswered, and I further it:  HAVE WE HAD

Having spent considerable waking hours at Noisebridge from June through
October, I can definitively state that I never saw any "professional"
cleaners come in and clean the space... unless they did some kind of
"energy cleaning" as they got the tour.  I can assure you that no one
outside of regulars has come by to clean the kitchen, clean the bathrooms,
mop, etc..

Seriously... we've had cleaners??  And we just "paid them" without any QC
on what was allegedly done?

Unless Wish or Cynthia were being paid, I don't think we've had cleaners.
I know I wasn't paid.

Who be these cleaners, when did they show up, and what did they do?  Any

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
>> Danny has clarified things, the general direction of last night's
>> discussion was to push for consensus at our next meeting. If the
>> discussion item for the cleaners was listed in the meeting notes a few
>> hours prior to the meeting I would have made time to attend the whole
>> meeting and to participate in discussion.
> More my fault than anyone -- I pinged Will about it to talk about at
> soceng because we were doing a recap of stuff that was brainstormed there,
> and it just dropped into the meeting unbidden.
>> With that being said, as a member of Noisebridge I would like to see my
>> prior requests for more information fulfilled (see quoted text) before
>> letting this item pass for consensus. It would be great if that could
>> get posted here (we're more or less having that discussion right now),
>> so this all doesn't get pushed over another week.
>> Rubin Abdi wrote, On 2011-11-16 11:28:
>> >> It is felt that we should put it up for consensus for a further period,
>> >> > this time for six months.
>> > My response would be that this can't pass for consensus until someone
>> > can outline what cleaning has happened, how much it cost us, and (key
>> > point here) how that's improved the space over not paying a cleaners for
>> > cleaning service.
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> Rubin
>> rubin at starset.net
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