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Tue Nov 22 04:44:09 PST 2011
i seen plots 8+ acres in vacacille for $80,000
On 18 November 2011 18:22, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
>> By early I would guess he is saying we should talk more about goals needs
>> etc. before going shopping.
> yes, let's talk about such things. What would you like NoiseLand to be
> like? What are your goals?
> I think that many of us City-dwellers would be unable to dedicate
> ourselves full-time to such a project, but by banding together with a
> like-minded community as we have done, we can create a resource for all of
> Depending on what size and kind of land we get, we could have from a
> medium-sized garden to a large-scale agricultural operation. I would like
> to see something in the middle, where the land would be able to produce at
> least enough food for the people living there.
> is a wiki, so people can add their own ideas to the page itself, but
> really we should continue to talk about it in this thread or on a separate
> Noiseland-discuss list, if one gets created. But for now it should stay
> You mention that you can get cheap land if you're willing to die alone,
> cold and hungry on top of a mountain, but before Noisebridge found a rental
> space I did not believe that we could afford anything close to the mission,
> or any BART station. I have been proven wrong, but now I know that we
> could buy an A+ parcel of land without comprimise by pooling our resources.
> I have added your list of attributes to consider to the wiki, and now i'm
> adding a Proposed uses and purposes of NoiseLand. I invite others to do
> the same but they should also post such ideas to this thread, since
> otherwise people may not notice who have "already read" the wiki.
> 1. A place for people from the Noisebridge community to go to get away
> from the city
> 2. A place for people from the Noisebridge and NoiseLand community to live
> and work
> 3. Gardening, Farming, Agriculture, Aquaculture, Mushroom growing
> 4. A base from which to hunt wild animals and pick wild mushrooms
> 5. Somewhere to build giant projects
> 6. A place to experiment with solar energy collection
> 7. Robot Orange Pickers
> 8. Drugs and wild parties in the woods
> 9. Naked all the time
> 10. All the benefits of owning a giant parcel of land but shared
> responsibility and cost
> I dare you to add #11
> P.S. also, your dog.
>> Distance from city - geographic, driving time. Distance from medical
>> services. Growing season. Terrain (hilliness, arability, suitability for
>> proposed uses). Water supply. Availability of services (power, internet,
>> sewage, roads/maintenance). Poison oak, or no?
>> There is lots of amazing land in california, and if you are willing to
>> to a mountaintop it's pretty cheap. It might be helpful to narrow down
>> it's for and what the parameters are before picking a region.
>> On Nov 18, 2011 4:17 PM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> What do you mean by Early? áI don't understand.
>> I looked for Jupiter, CA on google maps and it didn't come up,
>> it's too bad because it would be really cool to convince all the
>> other hackerspaces that we have an outpost on Jupiter.
>> Whats the environment like out there? áI prefer temperatures
>> between 50 and 90 degrees. áI guess i will look at google maps
>> and see what color it is from space.
>> It's true that 40 minutes down a dirt road is a bit much,
>> although i would be okay with 20 personally. áBut it really
>> depends on the other merits of the land.. lush and green, or tan
>> and rocky make all the difference.
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, michael o wrote:
>> this sounds like a great idea! though it is early
>> for looking for property,
>> might I suggest looking in Tuolumne county 3 hours
>> east of SF. my family has
>> land out in the 'suburb' called 'Jupiter' though 40
>> minutes down a dirt road
>> is not really what you are looking for but I there
>> are other spots near and
>> around, including down out by James town going
>> toward wards ferry. álook at
>> a map and check it out, it'sábeautifuláout there and
>> the land is cheap.á
>> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Jake
>> <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> á á áI have been inspired to create NoiseLand, a
>> wiki page which will
>> á á áhopefully
>> á á álead to the purchase of a large parcel of land
>> in Northern
>> á á áCalifornia.
>> á á áhttps://www.noisebridge.net/**wiki/NoiseLand<https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/NoiseLand>
>> á á áIf we have enough resources, someone should
>> create a NoiseLand
>> á á ádiscussion
>> á á álist, to supplement the wiki page. áBut let the
>> discussion begin
>> á á áhere and
>> á á ánow.
>> á á á-jake
>> á á áBen wrote:
>> á á á> I am curious as to your ideas for sustainable
>> á á áliving. See,
>> á á á> it's really hard to consume no processed or
>> produced goods and
>> á á ámake
>> á á á> everything yourself when one lives as our
>> society has
>> á á ádictated: as
>> á á á> consumers. As consumers we are all sealed off
>> in our own
>> á á álittle boxes
>> á á á> (prisons actually or one might say the cave)
>> scrabbling to get
>> á á áthe
>> á á á> latest shiny and fuck everybody else, it's
>> all about me son
>> á á áalong with
>> á á á> the sure belief that no matter what, it
>> surely is someone
>> á á áelse's fault.
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