[Noisebridge-discuss] Thread about classrooms

jim jim at systemateka.com
Wed Nov 30 18:09:46 PST 2011



    That's a good idea, though probably we should finish the 
sheetrocking and painting in there first. 
    My thought for shelving in Turing is for transitory stuff, 
a place off the tables (and definitely the floors) for stuff 
that doesn't stay there forever--leaves when its human leaves, 
and also for a projector and other stuff that is likely to be 
used in the classroom (markers, etc.). 
    specifically, the idea is for a single shelf, eight feet 
long and something like ten inches deep, on each wall, running 
above the tables and between the conduit that brings power to 
the tables--there's a little teeny shelf that's in there now, 
been there for about a year. i'm thinking of something larger 
but not more intrusive. 

 



On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 17:58 -0800, rachel lyra hospodar wrote:
> what about officially dedicating the shower closet to the storage
> purposes it already serves, building it out for that purpose, and adding
> shelving for the needs that you and your groups have?
> 
> R.
> 
> On 11/30/2011 5:42 PM, jim wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > two points: 
> > * i like the idea of bays somewhere in the space where things 
> > are stored when not in use, e.g. screwdrivers and other stuff 
> > in the dirty workshop, electronic tools (scopes, meters, hand 
> > tools...). you wanna work on something? great, get stuff from 
> > a bay and work and then put it back before you LEAVE THE SPACE. 
> > * i like the idea that stuff we need for infrastructure (e.g. 
> > all the electrical stuff i bought with my money with the idea 
> > it will be used in the space for general power and lighting, 
> > e.g. ladders, extension cords, vacuum cleaners...) resides in 
> > some place where it's clear that the stuff is there so we can 
> > improve the space and things are organized so that light bulbs, 
> > sheetrock screws, plumbing fittings...) are together with their 
> > brothers and sisters in one place and that there is a single 
> > sign that explains the organization. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 12:56 -0800, Danny O'Brien wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net> wrote:
> >>> Elijah Post wrote, On 2011-11-30 12:32:
> >>>> My thinking was that classes with lots of equipment or about fabrication
> >>>> (of which there are many) would be in church.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but the 3D printers are used beyond just within classes.
> >>> Additionally they take up space, inside of a classroom that's less
> >>> people that can attend other classes that don't involve 3D printers.
> >>
> >> I think that the problem that is being sought to be solved is that the
> >> 3D printers are in a high-traffic area, and therefore get futzed with
> >> a lot, and people working on them get distracted, and the 3D printers
> >> get misaligned by gawking people, so they are looking to move them
> >> somewhere less high-traffic (somebody should step in if I got this
> >> wrong).
> >>
> >> This is actually a more general issue -- many people complain about
> >> this, and it was one of those things that cropped up in the "why i
> >> don't work on projects at NB" lists.
> >>
> >> I'd be interested in quickly brainstorming how we could fix this, and
> >> whether we actually *should* fix this. It may just be the nature of
> >> the Noisebridge beast that we get a lot of foot-traffic and enquiries
> >> and that stuff gets messed with.
> >>
> >> Generally at points like this, people want to have a smaller, enclosed
> >> space that they have some control over. As Rubin has pointed out
> >> before, this creates new challenges in that those people often end up
> >> somewhat proprietorial about their bit. I don't actually think that's
> >> always bad -- it's good to be protective of say the kitchen, and it's
> >> great that the 3D printers now have a gang working on them full-time.
> >>
> >> One proposed solution for the 3D printers was to move them a bit
> >> further out from the front of the space, out toward the SCOW area,
> >> instead of Church/Turing.
> >>
> >> Another solution was to have one of the 3D printers as a sacrificial
> >> lamb at the front of the space, and put the others in some more
> >> hidden-away area.
> >>
> >> Finally, maybe rephrasing it as expanding the laser room to include a
> >> 3D printing section rather than invading Church might be a better way
> >> of taking this. A row of desks under the laser printer room would take
> >> a bit of church that's frequently set up with desks anyway, and is
> >> kind of awkward to occupy for a class in there.
> >>
> >> Personally, I'm happy for Church to be a bit multi-use as long as it
> >> doesn't get taken over by other projects permanently, and Turing
> >> remains completely a classroom.
> >>
> >> d.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
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> >>> rubin at starset.net
> >>>
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