[Noisebridge-discuss] Sigh -- I'm not helping with Maker Faires this year.

Sean Cusack sean.p.cusack at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 23:29:12 PDT 2012


I have to agree with Rachel. I'm super disappointed to hear that Make has
decided to go the blowing people up route. I'm no longer sure if I'll be
attending this year.

Matt - in regards to your comments...although I agree that there are lots
of big companies who can make cash off of killing people, there are also
millions of other companies that do not...many of which attend maker faire.
Hopefully, younger students will have the state of mind to look at
companies like Seeed studio, or Cool neon, or one of the other zillions of
companies that attend Maker Faire when looking for inspiration to be a
hacker in the future.

Sean

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have always contributed to Maker Faire for free, as a labor of love to
> the community that Dale and Sherry were clearly working so hard to
> build. I am friendly with both of them and do intend to speak with them
> about my feelings on this matter.
>
> I value my time very highly and am careful about what projects I choose
> to work on.  I have many avenues through which I can reach out to teach
> the skills that I have.  I am very careful about what I volunteer for,
> and working for free on projects that have sketchy morals is kind of on
> my black list.
>
> I think I'll teach classes out of my storefront.  It'll be interesting
> to see who I reach by working in North Oakland instead of San Mateo.
>
> >deny you a voice
>
> choosing how, where, and when to use your voice is part of using it.
>
>
>
> On 4/2/2012 9:40 PM, Matt Joyce wrote:
> > One cautionary concern:
> >
> > Companies like boston dynamics, general dynamics, lockheed martin...
> > etc snap up the bulk of robotics talent in the college pool today.
> > They have the money, they have cool projects, and kids tend not to be
> > very good at understanding the opportunities they will have on a
> > longer term.  They also have less of a notion as to what consequences
> > really are.
> >
> > Refusing to participate in Maker Faire will do little to produce an
> > incentive to remove those organizations from Make and STEM initiatives
> > in general.  It will simply deny you a voice, and that will deny
> > children an incentive to look elsewhere for opportunity when the time
> > comes for them to choose their path in life.
> >
> > That's my concern.  When looking at it from a perspective that is NOT my
> own.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM, rachel lyra hospodar
> > <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> how did you find out? i don't see it anywhere in a cursory perusal of
> >> their site.  Oreilly donated a bunch of materials to Occupy and I have
> >> always really liked working with them :( but i might have to join you in
> >> this protest.
> >>
> >> On 4/2/2012 7:15 PM, Mitch Altman wrote:
> >>> It's official. I'm greatly saddened that I won't be able to help at
> this
> >>> year's Maker Faires after they applied for and accepted a grant from
> DARPA.
> >>>
> >>> I look forward to working and playing at Maker Faire again, after they
> >>> are no longer associated with DARPA.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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