[Noisebridge-discuss] Tomorrow night's meeting [Oh you know if it's me it's drama]

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Mon Apr 9 23:48:46 PDT 2012


I am with Kelly here.  It was specifically agreed that you would not return
AT ALL, to noisebridge, until mediation was completed.  It has not.  If you
return, it most likely could be construed as trespassing.  If you are going
against that agreement, you might also be instantly eligible for an actual
ban, since you seem to be unable to satisfactorily complete mediation.  Not
that I am a member or have any particular power but I beg you, please
reconsider showing up until mediation has been completed.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Kelly <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> Tom is out of town and unable to act as mediator in person. I will be
> standing in as his proxy at the upcoming meeting.
>
> You made an agreement with the group that you would not return to the
> space without completing some form of mediation satisfactorily. If you
> want to start that, you can contact me off-list. If you show up at the
> space tomorrow (there's no way we can complete mediation in 24 hours)
> that would be very disrespectful, and I don't think people would
> respond well.
>
> -Kelly
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 22:17, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Oh and for the record, now I'm very upset.
> > I am putting my foot down and I'm letting everyone know once again that
> I am
> > coming to this meeting to speak out and say what it is that I need to
> say,
> > come hell or high water. I have a right to defend myself goddammit and
> I'm
> > not going to let some little pipsqueaks try and get in my way.
> > YES I want to go through the mediation process. NO I don't want to wait
> > around until Robert wants to. My heart f***ing bleeds.. It's going to
> begin
> > tomorrow and its going to be hasty... outside of NB and in America, I
> would
> > have a right to a speedy trial. I'm f***ing DONE with this bull****.
> Over it
> > times a million!!!
> >
> > - Justin Patrick Doerr
> >
> > On Apr 9, 2012 9:58 PM, "Justin Doerr" <justinsfca at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> OK fine Matt, I will indent when a new paragraph needs to be formed.
> >> Jesus, enough with being a grammar Nazi!!
> >>
> >> And yes I'll reread your email if it makes you happy. I am well aware of
> >> what I'm doing. I've got a lot of emotional support from friends for
> making
> >> my decision to go about doing this.
> >>
> >> And Nick you're the one contributing to the drama by threatening to get
> >> the police involved. You brought that upon yourself. My sentiments still
> >> remain unswayed.
> >>
> >> On Apr 9, 2012 9:40 PM, "Matt Joyce" <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Refer to my previous email.  Please.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Nick, first off STFU, Robert tried to stab people with a knife when
> he
> >>> > was
> >>> > in a position where he was as drunk as I was, if I recall you were
> >>> > there for
> >>> > that situation....I don't see why you're defending him when you are
> >>> > aware
> >>> > that THAT happened as well. I'm not interested in trying to cause
> >>> > drama, I'm
> >>> > just going to the meeting to voice my opinion and leave immediately
> >>> > after.
> >>> > THAT IS attempted murder, which according to my friend who works at
> the
> >>> > DAs
> >>> > office of San Francisco, is what attempting to stab someone is. And
> to
> >>> > me
> >>> > trying to stab someone is far more heinous of a crime in my book than
> >>> > spitting on someone. I've already told him if he doesn't feel
> >>> > comfortable
> >>> > then he CAN LEAVE, as can you!! Get the police involved. See what
> >>> > happens.
> >>> > I'll willingly press charges on him as well, because at this point I
> >>> > don't
> >>> > care!! According to my friend who works for the DA of San Francisco,
> >>> > the
> >>> > worst that will happen to me is I'll get a slap on the wrist, whereas
> >>> > he
> >>> > could face incarceration ESPECIALLY considering I have proof from an
> >>> > anonymous person who witnessed that he did that. In fact, I'll call
> the
> >>> > police before you even get a chance to tomorrow night before the
> >>> > meeting and
> >>> > I'll have them escort me into the building if I have to. I don't want
> >>> > things
> >>> > to get ugly and I don't want to get the police involved in this at
> ALL,
> >>> > especially considering that's not the ONLY thing I have that I can
> use
> >>> > against Robert. BUT GO AHEAD Be a punk, see what happens when you do.
> >>> > Same
> >>> > thing can be said to Robert, be a punk. See what happens.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Apr 9, 2012 8:44 PM, "Nicholas Granado" <ngranado at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> hi justin,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> this should be really simple. YOU SPIT ON SOMEONE. that is nasty and
> >>> >> offensive. why would anyone want to participate in a community where
> >>> >> people
> >>> >> could possibly SPIT on you. you should be banned from the space.
> this
> >>> >> should
> >>> >> not even be up for debate. it is a travesty that it is up for
> debate.
> >>> >> if i
> >>> >> see you in the space (without the mediation being completed or
> granted
> >>> >> permission otherwise) when i'm there i will call the police and make
> >>> >> sure
> >>> >> you leave.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> nick
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Gavin Knight <gnnrok at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As I remember, it was discussed that you would finish mediation
> >>> >>> before
> >>> >>> trying to
> >>> >>> come back to the meetings.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I trust that, although you would like to share your thoughts about
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> events, you realize that
> >>> >>> this situation is between you and Robert, and rehashing this in a
> >>> >>> noisebridge does not solve
> >>> >>> the dispute.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Maybe alternatively you could schedule the mediation before or
> after
> >>> >>> the
> >>> >>> meeting, and figure
> >>> >>> out a solution that way.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> -Gavin
> >>> >>>
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Ronald Cotoni
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