[Noisebridge-discuss] Justin Doerr threat model, and how to respond

Justin Doerr justinsfca at gmail.com
Tue Apr 10 10:21:37 PDT 2012


Oh quit with the 5150 bullshit. Of all people at Noisebridge I don't need
to be 5150d. I'm sorry that when I feel I need to voice my opinion when I
feel there is a certain degree of injustice here and that I'm being labeled
as a drama queen or in your case, crazy. After all, I'm not the one running
around trying to stab people with a knife. Again PLEASE remind me why that
is being ignored and going unpunished, while my spitting incident is??...
I'm communicating this via Skype tonight at the meeting. Again, DONE as in
done!!
On Apr 10, 2012 9:58 AM, "Jonathan Lassoff" <jof at thejof.com> wrote:

> Dude..... 5150'ing someone because you have some sort of disagreement
> is *far* from excellent.
>
> --j
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Arnold Murray <arnold.murray at ymail.com>
> wrote:
> > People with psychiatric disabilities who are hospitalized involuntarily-
> - and are often in dire
> > need of mental health care, medical treatment and other services- - face
> a massive curtailment
> > of their basic human rights. These rights deprivations include
> everything from not being allowed
> > to wear one’s own clothes to being physically restrained, forcibly
> medicated.
> >
> > RIGHT TO EVALUATION
> > Evaluation consist of multidisciplinary analyses of a person’s medical,
> psychological,
> > social, financial and legal conditions as may appear to constitute a
> > problem...(Addressing patients legal conditions that appear to
> constitute a problem may
> > be an appropriate client referral or call to SFMHCRA on
> client’s/patient’s behalf.)
> >
> > GROUNDS FOR DETENTION
> > The grounds for detention are specified in WIC Sec.5150.  Under the
> statute, an individual may
> > be detained when, as the result of a mental disorder, the individual is
> a danger to others, or to
> > himself or herself, or is gravely disabled.  Grave disability means a
> condition in which a person,
> > as a result of a mental disorder, is unable to provide for his or her
> basic personal needs or food,
> > clothing and shelter (WIC Sec.5008).  The person acting to involuntarily
> detain an individual
> > must be designated by the county
> >
> > TRANSPORT TO DESIGNATED FACILITY
> > The individual must be taken to a facility designated by the county and
> approved by the State
> > Department of Mental Health as a facility or 72-hour treatment and
> evaluation.  The authorized
> > person must complete a written form stating  the circumstances under
> which the individual’s
> > condition was called to the attention of the authorized person, and the
> facts or statements
> > relied upon to have probable cause  to  believe  the  person  is  a
>  danger  to  himself  or  herself,  is  a
> > danger to others, or is gravely disabled.
> >
> > ADVISEMENT
> >
> > Upon being detained under the California Welfare & Institutions Code.
> Div.5, Chap.2, Sec.5150,
> > an oral advisement must be given to the person being detained which
> includes the following
> > information:
> >
> > My name is     and I am a  (police officer, mental
> > health professional, etc.) with  (name of agency).  You are not under
> > criminal arrest, but I am taking you for an evaluation by mental health
> > professionals at  (name of facility): you will be told your rights by the
> > mental health staff at the (facility).
> >
> > You may bring a few personal times with you, which I will have
> > to approve.  You can make a phone call and/or leave a note to tell your
> > friends and/or family where you have been taken.
> >
> >
> > Upon admission to a facility the detained person shall be given the
> following advisement orally
> > and in writing in a language or modality accessible to the person.  The
> written information shall
> > be provided in the person’s native language or the language, which is
> the person’s principal
> > means of communication.
> >
> > My name is     .  My position here is    .  You are
> > being detained on this psychiatric unit because it is our professional
> > opinion that as a result of a mental disorder you are likely to:
> >
> > A. Harm yourself.
> > B. Harm someone else.
> > C. Are unable to take care of your own food, clothing and
> > housing needs.
> >
> >
> > IMPORTANT PHONE NUMBERS
> >
> >               To get authorized for county NON-EMERGENCY mental health
> services
> >
> >               255-3737
> >
> >               Adult Protective Services 557-5230
> >
> >               Child Crisis (individuals under 18 years of age)  970-3800
> >
> >               Child Protective Services 558-2650
> >
> >               Community Behavioral Health Services
> >
> >               Dore Urgent Care Clinic  553-3100
> >
> >               Golden Gate Bridge Sergeant (people threatening to jump)
>  923-2220
> >
> >               HIV Crisis (for people HIV + AIDS)  476-3902
> >
> >               MAP Mobile Assistance Patrol-transportation for homeless
> people seeking drug and/or
> >
> >               medical treatment 431-7400
> >
> >                 Officer Kelly Dunn, San Francisco Police Department
> Psychiatric Liaison Unit  255-3727
> >
> >                 Poison Control 1-800-523-2222
> >
> >                 San Francisco Mental Health Clients’ Rights Advocates
>  552-8100
> >
> >                 Transportation for 5150: (ambulance services)
> >
> >                 St. Joseph    415-460-6020
> >
> >                 Pro Transport  510-812-5200
> >
> >                 King America   415-931-3000
> >
> >                 AMR        415-922-9400
> >
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