[Noisebridge-discuss] An experiment in linguistic fluidity / conversion algorithm needed

Tony Longshanks LeTigre anthonyletigre at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 23:21:17 PDT 2012


Thanks for those leads, we'll follow up on this.
I actually spent this week switching a bunch of things around yet again, so
it's a matter of waiting for it to cool into a stable shape. It's still
lava right now....

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Jonathan Foote <jtfoote at ieee.org> wrote:

> The Natural Language Toolkit might be a good place to start:
> http://www.nltk.org/
>
> In particular, it has the CMU English pronunciation dictionary baked in.
>
> https://nltk.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/howto/corpus.html#word-lists-and-lexicons
>
> If your mapping is 1:1 phonemes to codes your problem is pretty much
> solved with a Python dict lookup supplemented with some rules for
> non-dictionary entries (e.g.
> http://rhdunn.github.com/cainteoir/rules.html)
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 2:19 AM,  <glamortramp at riseup.net> wrote:
> > I've invented a new code language called ZLang and I want to be able to
> > convert English into ZLang with the click of a button.
> >
> > Can someone help or point me to some links, or possibly provide the sort
> > of algorithm (or logarithm? I'm over my head) I would need to make that
> > conversion possible?
> >
> > It's complicated, I suppose, by the fact that it's not always an easy,
> > letter-for-letter conversion; some English sounds (notably th, sh, ch)
> are
> > represented by a single letter in ZLang, and vice versa. Here's the
> > decryption key link if anyone's interested.
> >
> > http://zine.noisebridge.net/zlang
> >
> > It's already gone through a great deal of permutation and will probably
> go
> > through more. There's a fluidity to it: most of the time, there is more
> > than one letter or sound in ZLang that can be used to answer the English
> > sound. That leaves a certain amount of room for bending the rules or
> > choosing between different alternatives according to one's own aesthetic
> > sense of how a word should look, or what's necessary in order to allow
> > smooth pronunciation. I arrived at that after early version of ZLang that
> > were too rigid & resulted in unpronounceable or aesthetically deficient
> > words & sentences.
> >
> > You could say it's an experiment in linguistic fluidity, or a less
> > "autocratic" form of language. I'm not sure I would say that.....but you
> > could.
> >
> >
> > Tony/Glam
> >
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