[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] [blackhole] Re: Cynthia and "Asian" Reference

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Fri Feb 3 16:25:48 PST 2012


On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 04:06:42PM -0800, Matt Joyce wrote:
> As a male I'd like to suggest that we males are concerned as well
> about our own safety in the presence of uncaring feminists who
> ridicule us and place us at the forefront of some form of conspiracy
> to place women in kitchens.
> 

Yes, yes, you said this last time, along with the stuff about crack
babies and fried chicken.

http://hackerspaces-general-discussion-list.899408.n3.nabble.com/hackerspaces-An-interesting-point-of-view-On-Feminism-and-Microcontrollers-tp1619176p1621501.html

$5 dollars, dude. Actually, $2.50, because this is really just
entry-level trolling and we should have a cross-hackerspace discount for
this stuff...

MOVING RIGHT ALONG

> I am quite frankly distraught over the shear volume of passive
> aggressive assaults on my gender on this list and in society today in
> general.
> 
> Quite frankly I don't give a damn about your genitals people.  If you
> want to run around judging people because of their genitals that's on
> you.  But please don't lump me into some sort of ridiculous conspiracy
> to join you in your judging just because my dangle has a measurable
> angle.
> 
> Gender equality starts with ending feminism.
> 
> Let my people go!
> 
> -Matt
> 
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> > I'm not going to entertain everyone tweedling you into atoms until you
> > put $5 into the drama meter, Peter. Noisebridge gots to pay that
> > feminazi-geld somehow!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 02:58:19PM -0800, Peter Werner wrote:
> >> Danny O'Brien wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>     I'm not sure you actually realise how large of an intersection there is
> >>     between the people who organize and speak at Arse Electronica and those who
> >>     developed the (templated) suggestions for the anti-harrasment policy.
> >>
> >>
> >> Well then, I guess they have a rather large contradiction on their hands, don't
> >> they?
> >>
> >>
> >>     Obviously, it'd be far easier for the outrage if they were carefully
> >>     arranged on two sides of some gaping cultural divide, but actually you can
> >>     be simultaneously for developing reasonable anti-harassment policies *and*
> >>     sex positivity *and* freedom of speech.
> >>
> >>
> >> Might be. Pity the Geek Feminist policy template does such an utterly piss-poor
> >> job of it. And small clue here, calling for a ban on a ban on a very broad
> >> category of imagery as default policy and then demanding adoption of that
> >> policy at practically all public spaces raises fucking huge free speech issues.
> >> Oh, and "we're sex positive/anarchists/feminsts/whatever, therefore we can't be
> >> censors" sets off my bullshit detector big time.
> >>
> >>
> >>     It'd be pretty easy to knock out an anti-harassment variant for Arse or an
> >>     all-night hummus fucking party; those square brackets are there for a
> >>     reason. Probably a slightly better reason than your use of scare quotes
> >>     around a group of people you interact with on a regular basis.
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh dear, somebody's quite butthurt now, aren't they? Look, I interact with
> >> people who I think have damn fool ideas all the time. And as long as they're
> >> not imposing their perspective on me or vice versa, there's not a problem.
> >> People demanding their pet ideologies gain the force of a rule I have to abide
> >> by is another matter, and I will speak up about it.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >
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