[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] also [actual action] Re: Cynthiaand "Asian" Reference

germpore at sonic.net germpore at sonic.net
Fri Feb 3 17:01:02 PST 2012


So I'm supposed to pay for you behaving like an ideologue twit? Not going to happen. Your drama is your own.

Peter

On Fri 03/02/12  3:57 PM , "Danny O'Brien" <danny at spesh.com> wrote:

> I'm not going to entertain everyone tweedling you into atoms until you
> put $5 into the drama meter, Peter. Noisebridge gots to pay that
> feminazi-geld somehow!
> 
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 02:58:19PM -0800, Peter Werner wrote:
> > Danny O'Brien wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not sure you actually realise how large of an intersection there is
> > between the people who organize and speak at Arse Electronica and those
> who
> > developed the (templated) suggestions for the anti-harrasment policy.
> > 
> > 
> > Well then, I guess they have a rather large contradiction on their
> hands, don't
> > they?
> > 
> > 
> > Obviously, it'd be far easier for the outrage if they were carefully
> > arranged on two sides of some gaping cultural divide, but actually you
> can
> > be simultaneously for developing reasonable anti-harassment policies
> *and*
> > sex positivity *and* freedom of speech.
> > 
> > 
> > Might be. Pity the Geek Feminist policy template does such an utterly
> piss-poor
> > job of it. And small clue here, calling for a ban on a ban on a very
> broad
> > category of imagery as default policy and then demanding adoption of
> that
> > policy at practically all public spaces raises fucking huge free speech
> issues.
> > Oh, and "we're sex positive/anarchists/feminsts/whatever, therefore we
> can't be
> > censors" sets off my bullshit detector big time. 
> > 
> > 
> > It'd be pretty easy to knock out an anti-harassment variant for Arse or
> an
> > all-night hummus fucking party; those square brackets are there for a
> > reason. Probably a slightly better reason than your use of scare quotes
> > around a group of people you interact with on a regular basis.
> > 
> > 
> > Oh dear, somebody's quite butthurt now, aren't they? Look, I interact
> with
> > people who I think have damn fool ideas all the time. And as long as
> they're
> > not imposing their perspective on me or vice versa, there's not a
> problem.
> > People demanding their pet ideologies gain the force of a rule I have to
> abide
> > by is another matter, and I will speak up about it.
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
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