[Noisebridge-discuss] You Can't Do That at Noisebridge!
rachel lyra hospodar
rachelyra at gmail.com
Sat Feb 4 11:26:30 PST 2012
On Feb 3, 2012 9:17 AM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:
> The strong argument against sleeping is that it may
> violate the terms of our lease. It's important to
The fact that it discourages hacking, mentioned upthread, is probably a
stronger argument. We are a diverse group but there is a general disrespect
for the rule of law for its own sake, and lots of understanding about the
need to hack. Even more important, defending the space's hackworthiness is
easier to rally behind than defending the lease terms.
> distinguish napping from sleeping in that sleeping may
> indicate homelessness and an attempt to live in the space.
Lots of valued members are homeless. We need to be careful to keep from
stigmatizing that, because we are a precious source of internet to that
community. We will always need to work towards reinforcing and maintaining
community standards about what ways are acceptable for using the space.
This is what Noisebridge does. We stake out 5200 square feet - this space
is for hacking. We commit to defend and maintain it, against external
threats and problems within. We pay the rent so the man doesn't kick us
out. We pay the 'lectricity so we can zap all our things. We tell the
secret service to fuck right off. WE work on interacting with each other,
so we don't IMPLODE!
> On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 18:12 -0800, Anthony LeTigre wrote:
> > On 2/2/2012 1:39 PM, Kelly wrote:
> > >
> > > Since the sleeper controversy seems to be especially problematic
> > > lately, I'm trying to coordinate some data collection about the
> > > sleeping problem.
> > Excellent idea, Kelly! If they're going to sleep anyway, we may as
> > well get some data out of it. It could lead to breakthroughs in our
> > understanding of sleep disorders ranging from light
> > recreational-drug-induced comas to post-gluttony fatigue syndrome to
> > garden-variety homelessness. Technology has a role to play. There's an
> > Android app that charts each individual's sleep patterns and wakes
> > them at the optimal point in their sleeping trajectory. We might use
> > the renegade Noisesleepers as a test group to develop new and even
> > more relaxing technological wizardry!
> > >
> > > I've made a wiki page for the Rooster Brigade, a volunteer group of
> > > noisebridgers who are willing to stand up (or sit down and type) and
> > > name people who are sleeping at Noisebridge.
> > Finding a rooster that can talk is going to be tough enough.....let
> > alone one willing to name names.
> > > The goal of this effort
> > > is partly so daytime noisebridgers can learn about the nocturnal
> > > community, but also so that the nocturnal community can learn about
> > > the goals of the larger community.
> > To be fair, maybe we should meet the nocturnal community halfway, on
> > their turf......our first meetup might be a wide-awake talking and
> > thinking type scenario, but the second should probably be a group
> > sleeping session of some kind - at least a 15-minute cat nap. (Or
> > "power nap," as they're called by people who don't like cats).
> > >
> > > Here's how you can help!
> > FYI, I usually stop reading when I come across this
> > phrase..........tonight I'm feeling extra helpful, though.
> > >
> > > 1. If you see someone sleeping at noisebridge, find out who they are.
> > > This can be accomplished by asking others in the space, photographing
> > > them and asking someone later, or waking them and asking yourself.
> > I propose a "passive-aggressive, kill'-em-with-kindness" approach to
> > the issue, to wit: If you see a member of the nocturnal community
> > actively sleeping at Noisebridge, wake them every 15 minutes on the
> > dot and ask, "Hey, it's me again, I just noticed you were sleeping and
> > I wanted to check in and make sure you have everything you need. Would
> > you like a glass of water or coffee? Something stronger, perhaps? We
> > just got some new things in from China that are sure to be illegal
> > soon, so get it while it's hot! Anyhow, I'm right here, so just let me
> > know....."
> > Another option might be the "You Can't Do That at Noisebridge!"
> > approach: rigging a bucket of green slime above the sofas and dumping
> > it unceremoniously upon anyone violating the Sleep Not ordinance. Or
> > we could go Carrie style....
> > >
> > > 2. Write their name on the wiki on the day and time you encountered
> > > them sleeping. A brief description of the situation is also helpful.
> > > Were they faceplanted in a soldering iron?
> > Even worse.....narcoleptics in the wood shop! Those table saws don't
> > care what's in front of em, they'll cut a bitch.
> > > Did they have a sleeping
> > > bag, luggage or houseplants?
> > In all seriousness......I think lusher foliage would add a lot to the
> > space. I see this as a positive.
> > Well, I think I've been helpful enough for one evening. I feel the War
> > on Sleep is off to an Excellent start and I have every confidence that
> > we can win this thing.
> > xo
> > --
> > TLongshanksLT
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