[Noisebridge-discuss] Upstairs door latch mechanism?

jim jim at well.com
Sat Feb 11 01:15:59 PST 2012


    a lot of people use the buzzer. most of them do so out 
of habit. a fair number do so because they're coming to 
some event. i recognize some of them as regular users of 
the space. 
    i'm curious to know how you get in without buzzing. 
people are different; seems better not to judge, at least 
not right away. 


On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 00:56 -0800, Christopher Maujean wrote:
> It seems to me, given the tons of information on the wiki, and on the
> mailing lists, that using the buzzer is an immediate reason for
> suspicion. I've been to the space a few times, and I have never used
> the buzzer. 
> 
> --Christopher
> 
> On Feb 10, 2012 8:53 PM, "jim" <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
>         
>            It seems you're presuming things about persons using
>         the buzzer. How many people who use the buzzer should be
>         let in? Seems like "most", to me, based on the people
>         I've seen come in that way.
>         
>            How many people shouldn't? How can anyone say? Who
>         knows who might "come around" to a hacker's head?
>            And if they don't? What's bad?
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 17:12 -0800, Jake wrote:
>         > This is exactly why it's easier to turn someone away by not
>         buzzing the
>         > gate open, than it is to let them in and come all the way up
>         the stairs
>         > and then try to turn them back.
>         >
>         > If someone presses the button at the gate and nothing
>         happens, they have
>         > no one to be mad at, and they have not already gone up two
>         flights of
>         > stairs toward their destination.  No big deal, they will
>         proceed to some
>         > other place to hang out.
>         >
>         > -jake
>         >
>         > David Estes wrote:
>         > > Right, and I am decidedly /not/ a big guy. Imagine me
>         trying to have
>         > > that conversation, but on the street outside the gate. I
>         don't think it
>         > > would have gone well.
>         >
>         > Rachel Lyra wrote:
>         > I've done this, at 3am. someone sort of followed me there
>         from a party
>         > (incidentally one where they had to eject one of our
>         homeless residents
>         > for drunkenness).  I'm a smallish female, although i usually
>         wear baggy
>         > clothes and boots.  It wasn't fun but it worked out ok.  I'm
>         pretty
>         > assertive though.
>         >
>         > Since our constituency of preferred users includes many
>         people who would
>         > be uncomfortable with this type of confrontation, we
>         probably want to
>         > help deal with that!  I think that the more complicated it
>         looks to get
>         > in, the easier it would be to tell a person trying to follow
>         you in that
>         > they are not authorized for entry.  By creating a ridiculous
>         rube
>         > goldberg of Entry we can create a Flying Spaghetti Monster
>         type
>         > authority to appeal to when denying someone entry.  THE
>         SCIENCE-DEITIES
>         > OF ENTRY DENY YOU! I AM BUT THEIR HUMBLE SERVANT!
>         >
>         > R.
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