[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: Upstairs door latch mechanism?

maestro maestro415 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 11 09:45:09 PST 2012


# forgive if duplicate discuss admin. gmail was fucked up wasn't sent...

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From: maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Upstairs door latch mechanism?
To: jim <jim at well.com>
Cc: Christopher Maujean <cmaujean at gmail.com>, Jake <jake at spaz.org>, "
noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net" <
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# +1 jim...
# i am very interested to know this as well...
# are you breaking into noisebridge hence showing others on the street
(that you don't even know are watching you, and everyone is ALWAYS watching
in the mission and you won't see them) how to get in...
# perhaps this is why so many dodgy fucks have started getting in and are
attracted to the door...
# word of mouth is quick on the streets...

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On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:15 AM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>    a lot of people use the buzzer. most of them do so out
> of habit. a fair number do so because they're coming to
> some event. i recognize some of them as regular users of
> the space.
>    i'm curious to know how you get in without buzzing.
> people are different; seems better not to judge, at least
> not right away.
>
>
> On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 00:56 -0800, Christopher Maujean wrote:
> > It seems to me, given the tons of information on the wiki, and on the
> > mailing lists, that using the buzzer is an immediate reason for
> > suspicion. I've been to the space a few times, and I have never used
> > the buzzer.
> >
> > --Christopher
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2012 8:53 PM, "jim" <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> >
> >            It seems you're presuming things about persons using
> >         the buzzer. How many people who use the buzzer should be
> >         let in? Seems like "most", to me, based on the people
> >         I've seen come in that way.
> >
> >            How many people shouldn't? How can anyone say? Who
> >         knows who might "come around" to a hacker's head?
> >            And if they don't? What's bad?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 17:12 -0800, Jake wrote:
> >         > This is exactly why it's easier to turn someone away by not
> >         buzzing the
> >         > gate open, than it is to let them in and come all the way up
> >         the stairs
> >         > and then try to turn them back.
> >         >
> >         > If someone presses the button at the gate and nothing
> >         happens, they have
> >         > no one to be mad at, and they have not already gone up two
> >         flights of
> >         > stairs toward their destination.  No big deal, they will
> >         proceed to some
> >         > other place to hang out.
> >         >
> >         > -jake
> >         >
> >         > David Estes wrote:
> >         > > Right, and I am decidedly /not/ a big guy. Imagine me
> >         trying to have
> >         > > that conversation, but on the street outside the gate. I
> >         don't think it
> >         > > would have gone well.
> >         >
> >         > Rachel Lyra wrote:
> >         > I've done this, at 3am. someone sort of followed me there
> >         from a party
> >         > (incidentally one where they had to eject one of our
> >         homeless residents
> >         > for drunkenness).  I'm a smallish female, although i usually
> >         wear baggy
> >         > clothes and boots.  It wasn't fun but it worked out ok.  I'm
> >         pretty
> >         > assertive though.
> >         >
> >         > Since our constituency of preferred users includes many
> >         people who would
> >         > be uncomfortable with this type of confrontation, we
> >         probably want to
> >         > help deal with that!  I think that the more complicated it
> >         looks to get
> >         > in, the easier it would be to tell a person trying to follow
> >         you in that
> >         > they are not authorized for entry.  By creating a ridiculous
> >         rube
> >         > goldberg of Entry we can create a Flying Spaghetti Monster
> >         type
> >         > authority to appeal to when denying someone entry.  THE
> >         SCIENCE-DEITIES
> >         > OF ENTRY DENY YOU! I AM BUT THEIR HUMBLE SERVANT!
> >         >
> >         > R.
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