[Noisebridge-discuss] banning "Occupy"

Jake jake at spaz.org
Tue Feb 14 13:10:41 PST 2012


I look forward to hearing your suggestions on ways of dealing with the 
problems.

I still think my idea is great but i am disappointed that more people 
don't understand how it works.  If people belong at noisebridge they will 
not be at all discouraged by our policy of No Occupy Allowed.

What's the first rule of fight club?  Same thing with occupy.  If you meet 
buddha on the road, kill him.  If someone comes to noisebridge and says 
they're "from occupy" kill them.  If they are there to hack, instead of 
killing them you can encourage them to drop the "occupy" tagline because 
we have trauma associated with that.

You said yourself that we need to meet these challenges with hackerlike 
creativity.  I think that if everyone who is being a dick is also 
identifying as being "from occupy" then a simple solution is to "ban 
occupy".

and that is step one toward uniting out community to back each other up 
onto a mutually-agreed concept.

-jake

> Jake, I think this suggestion stinks. I am surprised you even made it. That
> guy was being a jerk, which is already not allowed. Why attempt to bar a
> highly relevant political movement, which you support, instead of just
> telling dicks to stop being dicks?
> 
> I think a lot of what people are seeking in these various conflict
> situations, is a sense of the community backing you up.
> 
> Dude.
> 
> It backs you up when someone is being lousy, regardless of whether they come
> from Free School or Occupy or whatever scruffy group of people find us
> next.  Banning Free School wouldn't have saved us from Occupy, and banning
> Occupy wouldn't save us from assholes. It would save us from helping save
> the world from capitalism.  If it helps we can set up a page on the Occupy
> website about noisebridge, and not being lame. Then if you need backup
> against dicks from occupy, you can show them a page on their own website
> saying not to be dicks.
> 
> R.
> 
> mediumreality.com
> 
> On Feb 13, 2012 4:20 PM, "Kelly" <hurtstotouchfire at gmail.com> wrote:
>       I think that occupiers who want to hack things should check in
>       with
>       the Hackupy group: https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Hackupy who
>       seem
>       to have the potential to do occupy work excellently. Do we have
>       a
>       contact person for that contingent?
>
>       -Kelly
>
>       On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 16:17, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com>
>       wrote:
>       > If you ban occupiers don't they just camp wherever you banned
>       them from?
>       >
>       > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>       >> There have been a few over-the-top assholes staking their
>       claim to be at
>       >> noisebridge lately, who are saying that they are welcome
>       because they are
>       >> "occupy"
>       >>
>       >> I propose that we ban Occupy from noisebridge.  That way,
>       assholes who use
>       >> physical intimidation against people questioning why they're
>       at
>       >> Noisebridge will have one less "reason" besides puffing
>       themselves up like
>       >> a rooster.
>       >>
>       >> Please don't troll in response to this post.  Yes I do
>       understand that we
>       >> have met many excellent hackers through occupy, but those
>       people are smart
>       >> enough to wink when asked if we should "ban occupy" from
>       noisebridge.
>       >>
>       >> Do you have a story to share about an asshole claiming to be
>       from "occupy"
>       >> who is trying to occupy noisebridge in a bad way?
>       >>
>       >> -jake
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