[Noisebridge-discuss] Tired of Noisebridge BS, As of Late

Shannon Lee shannon at scatter.com
Wed Feb 15 17:01:26 PST 2012


That's my idea, yeah; use the current shelving as Bin Storage, and possibly
create more Bin Storage in other places. Having open shelves full of crap
is (a) too inviting of random pilfering and (b) too prone to spillage and
(c) just triggers the hell out of my clutter-blindness and makes the space
look constantly untidy.

That's $400, which is 1/3 of what we need to have to order bins.

--S

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:49 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
>    I'll chip in $200 (and hope to get repaid over time that
> or credited toward membership?).
>    And I recall that you, Shannon, said we'd store the bins
> on the shelves, yes? Sounds good to me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 16:35 -0800, Shannon Lee wrote:
> > we ought to buy 80 of these:  http://is.gd/UCQIsE
> >
> >
> > then everybody gets a bin; the bins are lockable; and we can move
> > things around without mixing up everybody's stuff and making a mess.
> >
> >
> > I have a couple of hundred bucks to put into a "get us some bins"
> > project.
> >
> >
> > --S
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:09 PM, miloh <froggytoad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >         On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jonathan Lassoff
> >         <jof at thejof.com> wrote:
> >         > So, I'm not sure if this came from "Hacker Alley being
> >         hacked", but I
> >         > was at Noisebridge the other night and found some of my
> >         belongings in
> >         > this big wooden crate by the e-waste area... getting ready
> >         to be
> >         > thrown out.
> >         >
> >         > This was especially lame, as they were clearly labeled with
> >         my name
> >         > (photo attached).
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > It's becoming increasingly clear to me that Noisebridge has
> >         jumped the
> >         > shark somewhat. The people I find myself most running into
> >         there are
> >         > not into technology, hacking, or really Noisebridge. I've
> >         found them
> >         > to be mostly belligerent, uninterested in rational
> >         conversations, and
> >         > seemingly trying to push various political agendas.
> >         >
> >         > I'm getting tired of seeing the Hackerspace that I worked so
> >         hard to
> >         > help build, fall apart, both socially and physically.
> >         > Like a radically-inclusive cell membrane in
> >         heavily-salinated water,
> >         > new influences are rushing in from all directions and we're
> >         beginning
> >         > to pop. The organelles that were keeping the cell working
> >         are being
> >         > pushed out, and I feel like we're falling apart.
> >         >
> >         > I'm tired of fighting entropy all the time, just to keep the
> >         status quo.
> >         > I miss the Noisebridge I came to know and love.
> >         >
> >         > The people and the technology are still out there -- we may
> >         be moving
> >         > apart, but I suspect we'll reform as the right conditions
> >         form.
> >         >
> >         > Cheers
> >
> >
> >         Thanks for the wakeup call jof,
> >
> >         Last night, I also found something with my name on it in the
> >         elevator
> >         room. Moved it back to the hacker shelves area.  I get really
> >         pissed
> >         off about this sort of thing, because it's happened before,
> >         and
> >         because when it happens we lose the trust of valuable members.
> >         I can't
> >         stand to see more folks get their trust in the noisebridge
> >         community
> >         abused.  It makes me very ambivalent about the space.
> >
> >         Does anyone else want to make like an amoeba and split? I feel
> >         like it
> >         sometimes. Last night I think I made up my mind. I came into
> >         noisebridge on Tuesday evening, apprehensive and on guard
> >         after a
> >         pretty tough circuit hacking Monday. I started to feel better
> >         as
> >         people showed up to check out ZiP.  By the end of the night I
> >         was
> >         thrilled to meet some awesome new folks, attend a meeting with
> >         more
> >         stacks than a wafflehouse, announce the ZiP zine release, play
> >         with
> >         jake's hacky geiger counter made from soviet era surplus GM
> >         tubes*,
> >         and even to EXCHANGE PGP KEYS!
> >
> >         I think I'll stick it out, pitch in and be a tough little
> >         Golgi
> >         apparatus. For awhile longer.
> >
> >         Don't let that fool you though. I want to love reoganization
> >         of the
> >         shelves but I dont. I do enjoy changes such as the visibility
> >         towards
> >         the fire escape, new fab area, laserengraver placement, and
> >         long table
> >         and EElab setup. But when I see all the work that went into
> >         the
> >         original build out that got wasted, I get very upset.
> >
> >         For instance, the outlets and electrical along the south wall
> >         are now
> >         obstructed and largely useless, shelves are not in a good
> >         final
> >         configuration yet they are overflowing with personal effects,
> >         and some
> >         crappy guard posts of particularly crappy design are nailed
> >         into the
> >         floor. Everyone's stuff on the user/member shelves is a grand
> >         mess.
> >         Many bins I bought for new members and hackshelf orga are
> >         missing or
> >         in pieces. The network drops near horsy that I and others put
> >         together
> >         for the plotters were tossed aside and the plotters are
> >         currently
> >         relegated to an unusable area by the kitchen.  The craft and
> >         sewing
> >         area is smaller in its current form and the cutting tables
> >         need access
> >         from all sides to be useful.
> >
> >         While I realize facilities and maintenance will be an eternal
> >         concern
> >         at noisebridge, I don't think an average user should devote
> >         more than
> >         10-20% of their available time on those issues.  The rest of
> >         time
> >         should be freed up for the grand hacks.
> >
> >         I came back from 45 days in Germany* wanting to see some grand
> >         noisebridge projects get realized, and to see some new
> >         inter-hackerspace projects get initiated this year. It's time
> >         to
> >         multi-thread the big long term projects and dreams into my
> >         time at
> >         noisebridge,  K GUISE? Anyone else with me?
> >
> >         As for the my ongoing tithe of 20%+ noisetime, here's my
> >         chosen
> >         contribution to fixing the shelf kerfuffle:
> >
> >         I'm going back to reboot the member shelves audit, and to get
> >         in touch
> >         with everyone who has shelf space for an inventory and
> >         detailed
> >         descriptions of anything missing.  Of course this project is
> >         one of
> >         the things that Al was working on and sadly met resistance for
> >         trying.
> >
> >          On that note, I must say I salute all the disenchanted,
> >         disappointed
> >         and disavowed noisebridgers that gave their effort and time to
> >         the
> >         space, only to see it continue in purgatory.  I'm aiming for a
> >         better
> >         place able to host some exciting projects in the coming year.
> >
> >         -rma
> >
> >         *Did anyone hear that I was in Germany for 45 days?
> >
> >         I just got back!*
> >
> >         If you are reading this now, congrats rebel, you just broke my
> >         grammatical 20goto10 loop. :-)
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shannon Lee
> > (503) 539-3700
> >
> > "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
> >
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-- 
Shannon Lee
(503) 539-3700

"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science."
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