[Noisebridge-discuss] Tired of Noisebridge BS, As of Late

Justin Doerr justinsfca at gmail.com
Thu Feb 16 06:51:32 PST 2012


I want to apologize for the frustration. I am personally as perturbed
as you are that your stuff was thrown in there. I am an entirely
reasonable and rational person who is willing to cooperate with almost
anyone and everyone about what I want to do. I will gladly say you are
welcome to share what I have to say to the discuss list. Last Friday
night me and 4 other individuals extensively went through to make sure
all the crap RAYC swiftly threw into the ewaste bins was not to be
thrown away so quickly, as I made an extension to the due date of when
I was going to throw everything out. I literally went part by part and
noticed something with your name on it and pulled it from the pile to
be put back. Keep in mind RAYC had learned his lesson from the
mistakes he made before and myself and other individuals have coached
him to slow down in his pace of reorganizing things. I am unbelievably
grateful to what great lengths of improvement he's made in cooperating
and communicating with other individuals. He also made note of this
and specifically told others working on our project to also be careful
this time around as well.




As far as Valentine's Day meeting was concerned, there was far too
much drama and back and forth piss matches between anyone and everyone
that I personally had to get up and walk out of the room to gather
myself from all of the underlying stress and heavy resentment everyone
seemed to be having towards many different targeted individuals. I
wanted to make it an item of discussion but as you can see there were
far more important topics revolving around the frustrations of others
who contribute nothing to the space, not even the willingness to
reorganize things, even if it is erroneous.




I may be a novice to the subjects of hacking and technology. I know
they are areas of knowledge that excite me the most, along with human
relations and psychology. However the point I'm trying to make is that
I am following my intuition that my hypothesis is that if areas such
as "hacker alley" are less chaotic and more organized, and all the
extraneous crap is removed, then it is one less area of stress for
those who extensively use that area of the space, moreover gradually
we can move on to other areas of the space as well. The thing that
bothers me and RAYC the most is that it always seems to be the case
that nobody wants to take responsibility for things until way after
the fact that they have become problems. If you are someone who
frequents the space as much as I do, you are more than welcome, along
with Jake, Miloh, Mitch, and Shannon, or any other individual who has
extensive knowledge in this area of the space to consult me in person
at Noisebridge. I am willing to extend the deadline even further down
the road against my own will, due to the sense of urgency of this last
meeting being a barricade to even getting a chance to make my
announcement. This is a learning experience for myself. As unfortunate
as it was that your stuff was thrown into the bin, I must say that
positively we have made it so that you can at least walk through that
area of the space. Safely that is. We are not done, just yet.




With that being said, Jonathan, Mitch, Miloh, Jake, RAYC, Jesse, Mike,
Zach etc...., I propose that you call me at 650-515-9420, and we can
set up a time at Noisebridge along with others, so that we can pro
actively discuss as a smaller group how to improve this area of the
space. Keep in mind. Let's be peaceful and willing individuals in
trying to cooperate with one another. It's not necessary to fight and
get angry and try to make others feel guilty when our number one focus
should be to allow ourselves to improve. So please take me up on my
offer and call me, and let's move forward. THANK YOU and Smiley face.
:-)




Very Sincerely,




Justin Patrick Doerr

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to apologize for the frustration. I am personally as perturbed as you
> are that your stuff was thrown in there. I am an entirely reasonable and
> rational person who is willing to cooperate with almost anyone and everyone
> about what I want to do. I will gladly say you are welcome to share what I
> have to say to the discuss list. Last Friday night me and 4 other
> individuals extensively went through to make sure all the crap RAYC swiftly
> threw into the ewaste bins was not to be thrown away so quickly, as I made
> an extension to the due date of when I was going to throw everything out. I
> literally went part by part and noticed something with your name on it and
> pulled it from the pile to be put back. Keep in mind RAYC had learned his
> lesson from the mistakes he made before and myself and other individuals
> have coached him to slow down in his pace of reorganizing things. I am
> unbelievably grateful to what great lengths of improvement he's made in
> cooperating and communicating with other individuals. He also made note of
> this and specifically told others working on our project to also be careful
> this time around as well.
>
> As far as Valentine's Day meeting was concerned, there was far too much
> drama and back and forth piss matches between anyone and everyone that I
> personally had to get up and walk out of the room to gather myself from all
> of the underlying stress and heavy resentment everyone seemed to be having
> towards many different targeted individuals. I wanted to make it an item of
> discussion but as you can see there were far more important topics revolving
> around the frustrations of others who contribute nothing to the space, not
> even the willingness to reorganize things, even if it is erroneous.
>
> I may be a novice to the subjects of hacking and technology. I know they are
> areas of knowledge that excite me the most, along with human relations and
> psychology. However the point I'm trying to make is that I am following my
> intuition that my hypothesis is that if areas such as "hacker alley" are
> less chaotic and more organized, and all the extraneous crap is removed,
> then it is one less area of stress for those who extensively use that area
> of the space, moreover gradually we can move on to other areas of the space
> as well. The thing that bothers me and RAYC the most is that it always seems
> to be the case that nobody wants to take responsibility for things until way
> after the fact that they have become problems. If you are someone who
> frequents the space as much as I do, you are more than welcome, along with
> Jake, Miloh, Mitch, and Shannon, or any other individual who has extensive
> knowledge in this area of the space to consult me in person at Noisebridge.
> I am willing to extend the deadline even further down the road against my
> own will, due to the sense of urgency of this last meeting being a barricade
> to even getting a chance to make my announcement. This is a learning
> experience for myself. As unfortunate as it was that your stuff was thrown
> into the bin, I must say that positively we have made it so that you can at
> least walk through that area of the space. Safely that is. We are not done,
> just yet.
>
> With that being said, Jonathan, Mitch, Miloh, Jake, RAYC, Jesse, Mike, Zach
> etc...., I propose that you call me at 650-515-9420, and we can set up a
> time at Noisebridge along with others, so that we can pro actively discuss
> as a smaller group how to improve this area of the space. Keep in mind.
> Let's be peaceful and willing individuals in trying to cooperate with one
> another. It's not necessary to fight and get angry and try to make others
> feel guilty when our number one focus should be to allow ourselves to
> improve. So please take me up on my offer and call me, and let's move
> forward. THANK YOU and Smiley face. :-)
>
> Very Sincerely,
>
> Justin Patrick Doerr
>
> On Feb 15, 2012 11:49 AM, "Jonathan Lassoff" <jof at thejof.com> wrote:


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