[Noisebridge-discuss] FBI stopped by and said Hi and that there was a cyber threat from noisebridge, Feb. 21 2012 around 9pm

Joshua Horowitz jahoro at stanford.edu
Mon Feb 27 00:30:20 PST 2012


Here's a classic: "Don't Talk To Police" --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Snail <snailtsunami at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 07:04:39PM -0700, Gopiballava Flaherty wrote:
>> > On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
>> > > Yeah, but it's not the first time. Any way we can make the contact
>> > > details *even clearer*?
>> >
>> > You mean, any way that you can convince the FBI, in advance, that we
>> > didn't do it, no matter what it is? Good luck with that :)
>>
>> The problem is, we want to convey the following:
>>
>> 1. email admin at noisetor.net for issues with these IPs.
>> 2. call $PHONENUMBER if that's not fast enough.
>> 3. If you *must* go somewhere here's our Market St address.
>>
>> We've had two contacts so far where the results have been:
>>
>> 1. they email our upstream rather than us, delaying the response.
>> 2. they call a different number.
>> 3. they come to 2169 for issues about noisetor.
>>
>> I agree, clarification may be in order.  Anybody care to look at the
>> whois info on 173.254.216.66 aka exit-01a.noisetor.net and let us know
>> how to make it clearer?
>>
>> -andy:
>>
>
> The registrar for Noisetor.net is GANDI SAS.
>
> I can't find this contact info on noisetor.net or 173.254.216.66.
>
> Those would be the FIRST places I would look to find anyone's contact
> info, personally, but I'm no FBI agent. (Really! >_>)
>
> It's also possible that anyone could confuse "noisetor" with "noisebridge"
> and thus presume 2169 is the place to be anyway, even if you made contact
> info very obvious.
>
> UNFORTUNATELY, 2169 is an extreme dead end of dead ends because we do not
> host any exit nodes in the physical space ANYWAY. If the agents did any bit
> of background, or knew how to hop into irc, they would know all of this
> already, and they possibly do know this but want an excuse to fish for info
> in person, or they possibly did no background research online and just want
> to putter around aimlessly irl and enjoy running into dead ends. Maybe dead
> ends require less paper work. Maybe the reason they state for investigating
> the space is misleading and they want to find out something entirely
> different. I'm not an FBI agent, so I wouldn't really know if they file
> paperwork at all, or lie about their intentions, but I imagine there is a
> lot of irl puttering about, based on the number of agents who show up at
> 2169 because somebody SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD used tor to access their
> twittarz.
>
> OMG, SOMEBODY LOGGED INTO TWITTER OVER TOR. Send in the black helicopters.
>
> WAIT, YOU MEAN TWITTER LOGS IPS?! AND DISCLOSES THEM TO THE GOVERNMENT??
>
> ....
>
>
> This episode also raises an important question in my mind: who buzzed the
> FBI agents into the space?
>
> (O.K., so technically Corey did not say they were in the space; it's
> possible he spoke with them downstairs outside the gate, but I somehow am
> just not picturing that.)
>
> --
> -Snailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnailssnails
> ............. _ at y
>
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