[Noisebridge-discuss] PsychedelicSF

daravinne daravinne at gmail.com
Tue Feb 28 14:38:50 PST 2012


> You're not talking about tweaking the mind though.  It'd be one thing
> if you were looking at how adderall decreased the need for sleep or
> made you more intelligent and better able to respond to tests.  But
> there's no science involved here.  The meetup group isn't looking to
> see if LSD results in statistically significant "breakthroughs" in
> solving problems, or how to enhance that effect.

And do you know why not?  Because they're ILLEGAL, thats why.  No one
can actually do these studies because it is not legal to produce or
consume these substances even for research purposes.  If they WERE
legal to do research on you bet your ass there'd be a ton of research
on what they're good for and how they affect people.



On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Will Sargent <will.sargent at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Kaya <firefaerie at psyreal.net> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 01:18:10PM -0800, Will Sargent wrote:
>>>> Is this something that you think should be hosted at Noisebridge
>>>> specifically?
>>
>> I support Daniel's effort.
>>
>> Hacking is a broad term which encompasses so much and its definition
>> expands regularly. Wet systems are ripe with hacking opportunity as
>> indicated by the emergence of cellular hacking spaces like Biocurious.
>
> Yeah, and if you can get a gerbil to glow in the dark?  That's awesome.
>
>> Human's can't help but tweak systems and the mind is fair game.
>> Progressively technology and humanity move closer towards each other.
>> Open discussions foster development and creativity which will influence
>> emerging biotech augmentation paradigms and the eventual technological
>> singularity.
>
> You're not talking about tweaking the mind though.  It'd be one thing
> if you were looking at how adderall decreased the need for sleep or
> made you more intelligent and better able to respond to tests.  But
> there's no science involved here.  The meetup group isn't looking to
> see if LSD results in statistically significant "breakthroughs" in
> solving problems, or how to enhance that effect.
>
> There's no biotech augmentation involved in studying the rituals of a
> tribe using psychedelics.  It's not going to bring about the rapture /
> singularity.  You might end up talking about how water has memory for
> 5 hours, but the experience itself isn't something you can transfer to
> others.
>
> What is psychedelics good for?  What is the discussion of psychedelics good for?
>
> Will.
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