[Noisebridge-discuss] PsychedelicSF

glamortramp at riseup.net glamortramp at riseup.net
Tue Feb 28 19:20:42 PST 2012


I'm in support of the project, and my support has nothing to do with
"let's trip out together!" ulterior motives......the last time I ingested
a psychedelic substance was in Seattle in 1999. I don't regret the
two-year phase of my life when I experimented rather heavily with
psychedelics, though. It was interesting, and indeed expanded my psychic
and imaginative horizons. I credit that time with the heightened
perceptiveness (what I sometimes refer to as a sixth sense or psychic
ability) that I've long felt I possess, along with some others. I'm still
undecided as to whether I possessed that ability before I experimented
with psychedelics, though.


gl at m

> Sorry, I didn’t mean to suggest we should have groups of people ingesting
> psilocybins at Noisebridge, any more than I think we should invite the
> public to play, responsibly, of course, with depleted uranium, because
> it’s “Science!” [Magnus Pyke voice]
>
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:30:23 -0800
> From: vonguard at gmail.com
> To: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] PsychedelicSF
>
> Here's my thought: actually researching and creating new psychedelic
> chemicals is totally awesome sciency hacking. Taking them, not so much.
>
> As Noisebridge has no chemical lab, this group is kinda sol, and would be
> better off dosing elsewhere. Imagine the chaos if a tripping hippy ended
> up on Mission st.... oh wait, we don't have to imagine. Just walk a few
> blocks and you can see it happening right now. Its not pretty.
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2012 4:18 PM, "Eric Vinyl" <vinyl876 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> While it's true that Hippies Ruin Everything(tm) I think "hacking
> consciousness" is indeed a valid endeavour. Despite the touchy-feely,
> Ren-Faire-juggler tone of the announcement, this is definitely something
> smart people might be interested in, even if it's not tech-related
> specifically. Pushing sewing, for example, as the "interaction between art
> and technology" is arguably disingenuous. While I can't speak to the
> credentials of the organizers of this event, there are empirical ways to
> examine mind and the process of thought that can provide deep insight into
> perception and how our brains work - this isn't just fantastical
> philosophizing, this stuff is cutting-edge neuroscience. You might find it
> a helpful analogy to think of the use of drugs in these investigations
> like staining a slide, or perhaps like exciting a molecule to observe a
> result. Though Boomer burnouts and their spawn have engaged in
> "experimentation" along these lines devoid of any scientific merit
> whatsoeve
>
>
>  r for years, this discredits the line of inquiry no more than we should
> suggest Noisebridge shouldn't hold a chemistry class 'cause hicks cook
> meth in their bathtub, or dismantling Spacebridge because rocketry is
> explosives and some idiot blew off his hands trying to make an M80 once.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KG5s_-Khvg#t=23m57s
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>
>> From: will.sargent at gmail.com
>
>> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 13:18:10 -0800
>
>> To: daniel at psychedelicsf.org
>
>> CC: adi at hexapodia.org; noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
>
>> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] PsychedelicSF
>
>>
>
>> Daniel,
>
>>
>
>> The reason I ask is because Noisebridge traditionally has an emphasis
>
>> on hacking, where hacking roughly means "creative activities with an
>
>> interaction between art and technology."
>
>>
>
>> "Hacking consciousness" not withstanding, this sounds like a
>
>> discussion of the experiences that various different kinds of drugs
>
>> give you and how tribal societies interact with those drugs -- which
>
>> can be educational and worthwhile, but not really along the same lines
>
>> as building your own circuits, learning how to do web development, or
>
>> even learning how to make legal, safe drugs through chemistry.
>
>>
>
>> Is this something that you think should be hosted at Noisebridge
>
>> specifically? Do you think you might find more interested people at,
>
>> say, the Buddhist Center or Free School?
>
>>
>
>> Will.
>
>>
>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Daniel Jabbour
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>> <daniel at psychedelicsf.org> wrote:
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>> >
>
>> > William-
>
>> >
>
>> > We're a relatively new group, just started last December. Right now
>> we've got about 150 folks on our meetup.com group
>> (www.PsychedelicSF.org), and our event at Noisebridge will mark our
>> 5th or so event. I helped organize a similar group in NYC, before I
>> moved, that grew to over 600 members. Hacking one's consciousness is
>> fascinating and at the heart of the human experience. I hope you can
>> make it to our lecture at Noisebridge this Sunday :)
>
>
>> >
>
>> > Warm regards,
>
>> > Daniel
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>> >
>
>> > --
>
>> > Daniel Jabbour
>
>> > Organizer, Psychedelic Society of San Francisco
>
>> > http://www.PsychedelicSF.org
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>> > daniel at psychedelicsf.org
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>> >
>
>> > On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Andy Isaacson wrote:
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>> >
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>> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:34:50AM -0800, William Sargent wrote:
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>> >
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>> > "We work to create safe spaces to foster discussion and community
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>> >
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>> > between consciousness seekers: psychologists, artists, philosophers,
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>> >
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>> > hippies, makers, scientists . . . I hope you can join us at a future
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>> >
>
>> > meetup."
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>> >
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>> >
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>> > Is this another troll, or is this actually a real thing?
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>> >
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>> >
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>> > I wondered the same thing, and asked around.  The consensus seems to
>> be
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>> > that the book release party is a real event put on by real, sincere
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>> > people.
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>> >
>
>> > -andy
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