[Noisebridge-discuss] Massive new NSA spying project projected for 2013
jim at well.com
Sat Mar 17 14:41:20 PDT 2012
great! just remember not to post your travel plans
and your home address.
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 14:32 -0700, Will Sargent wrote:
> Best option: either to look like everyone else, or start proactively
> keeping a record.
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:05 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the link.
> > Question: how can my refrigerator give NSA information
> > about me? (It's old and maybe PG&E put in a smart meter,
> > but our unit is on a sub-panel controlled by the main
> > distribution panel--difficult to see how even refrig use
> > would properly be reflected.
> > People who buy new refrigerators probably have MCUs in
> > them, but even so, how can refrig control or energy
> > harvesting circuits reflect much info?
> > Software is the critical element to the use of data.
> > There's a new-ish term, "big data", that refers to the
> > analysis of large amounts of unstructured data (such as
> > mobile phone, twitter, other social media, email...).
> > The software tools for big data are in their infancy.
> > Palantir makes a software suite for government and for
> > financial analysis (I believe wrt "big data", certainly
> > wrt large, complex data sets.
> > http://www.palantir.com/government
> > http://www.palantir.com/
> > Hadoop is an open source tool that addresses big data.
> > It requires a number of tools, some of which present new,
> > head-bending concepts, which will take a lot of years for
> > enough data analysts to learn to use effectively.
> > http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/
> > http://hadoop.apache.org/
> > The approach to self-defense, I suppose, is to stay
> > low and/or be very plain speaking (data-ing), along the
> > lines of open source thinking.
> > I suspect most of us are fairly safe, given the
> > existing (perceived) priorities.
> > My primary fear is that of mistakes: "Our software
> > says that people who eat both ice cream and pizza in a
> > single day and have purchased black pants within the
> > last two year period and are not members of the Sierra
> > Club and have no specific religious affiliation and
> > vote for democratic party politicians and are frequent
> > but not regular patrons of health food stores and are
> > between 24 and 32 or between 58 and 69 years of age...
> > have a 30% likelihood of ... AND YOU'RE ONE OF THEM AND
> > YOU WERE AT THE AIRPORT ON FRIDAY AND IN BOSTON THERE
> > WAS... AND YOU GOTTA COME WITH US NOW. AND NO, YOU
> > CAN'T MAKE A PHONE CALL OR GET YOUR COAT.
> > (Later they discover that ice cream and pizza was
> > a negative rather than a positivea indicator.)
> > On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 13:27 -0700, Kristian Erik Hermansen wrote:
> >> How to protect oneself? How will you defend your rights when this
> >> comes online? Even TOR will no longer be safe with this amount of
> >> resources at their disposal :(
> >> http://www.examiner.com/city-buzz-in-charlotte/nsa-2-billion-utah-based-facility-can-process-yottabytes-of-information
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