[Noisebridge-discuss] As much as I think Cynthia is crazy, I still find the situation unethical and stupid.

Frantisek Apfelbeck frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com
Wed May 2 13:20:14 PDT 2012


Hi to all:

One of the things I have learned while in Korea that being blunt is
perfectly natural. I think Cynthia needs that straight talk that has been
going around.
-- 
Sincerely,

Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck

biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker

http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org

"There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Why I would love to Ron, but I can't. You might place me under citizen's
> arrest for trespassing remember?
> And besides all my hacking related questions and answers to them I get
> from people off the list and on other forums. I keep all boring stuff off
> the discuss list and all drama related material on the discuss list. It's
> more entertaining that way. And besides I think it's a justified post. We
> don't need to be calling the police and swarming people. It's not like
> she's Pablo Escobar and we need to do a drug raid.
>
> This whole issue is stupid. And I for one am going to say something about
> it. I don't care if it offends anyone. I wasn't put on this planet to sugar
> coat things and say only things that make people feel comfortable and warm
> and fuzzy inside. I'm real.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
>  ------------------------------
> * From: * Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>;
> * To: * Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>;
> * Cc: * <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>; Frantisek Apfelbeck <
> frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com>;
> * Subject: * Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] As much as I think Cynthia is
> crazy, I still find the situation unethical and stupid.
> * Sent: * Wed, May 2, 2012 4:26:23 PM
>
>   Who cares.  Noisebridge is for hacking.  Stop causing drama and let's
> get back to that.  I suggest everyone on this thread attends a meeting to
> understand what noisebridge is about(hacking not drama).
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> > GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED IN A HACKERSPACE IS ONLY GOING TO DO MORE
>> HARM THAN GOOD!!! When you call the po-pos they fill out reports in their
>> little memo pads AND DOCUMENT THEM!!!
>> That means that when you get the police involved more often, the
>> likelihood of them wanting to probe an investigation on this place
>> increases!!!
>>
>> I wonder how many other hackerspaces have such an extreme distrust of the
>> police. I think if we were a little more open about Noisebridge and what it
>> does there wouldn't need to be such a worry about what they think of us. As
>> it is all they ever see is nutters having to be expelled from the premises.
>> If we're gonna continue to treat the space like a treehouse with a sign
>> that says 'no cops allowed' then it'll be no wonder if they start thinking
>> maybe we're doing some weird shit. WHAT *IS *YOUR FASCINATION WITH MY
>> FORBIDDEN CLOSET OF MYSTERY?
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <
>> frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi to all:
>>>
>>> As a member of the community I think that the decision to remove her
>>> might have been the best idea.
>>>
>>> Another friend of mine agrees on that remark.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>>
>>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>>>
>>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>>>
>>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 09:56:03PM -0700, Arnold Murray wrote:
>>>> > Justin, please stop trying to Friend me on
>>>> http://www.xtube.com/user_favorite_videos.php?u=JustinSFCA
>>>>
>>>> I realize it's "fun" to pwn Justin, but creating accounts in the name of
>>>> other people isn't awesome.  Or alternatively (and much less likely)
>>>> it's also not awesome to publish a link of two accounts belonging to
>>>> someone, against their wishes.
>>>>
>>>> It's especially unkind to do this because I blocked Justin from posting
>>>> to the list (again), and I'd feel compelled to unblock him if he
>>>> actually has a legitimate complaint with your behavior and needed to be
>>>> able to defend himself in the same forum.
>>>>
>>>> So, please don't do that again.
>>>>
>>>> -andy
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>
> --
> Ronald Cotoni
> Systems Engineer
>
>
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