[Noisebridge-discuss] As much as I think Cynthia is crazy, I still find the situation unethical and stupid.

Ever Falling everfalling at gmail.com
Wed May 2 16:34:02 PDT 2012


Man, what's with all the crazy people coming out of the woodwork recently?
Are they vying for the crazy-vacuum that Cynthia left behind?

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:36 PM, maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com> wrote:

> # + 1
>
> # there should be NO FUCKING police in the space EVER
>
> # feds came a couple months ago and someone gave them a fucking tour and
> offered them
>
> # coffee and cookies
>
> # don't need to keep enemies closer when you keep them out
>
> # last two times i randomly asked people "will you say i am NOT with any
> law enforcement or gov.
>
> # agencies" they did not say it, left that day and never returned because
> they were called out male and female
>
> # and it is common knowledge there are some cop lovin sheep at the space
>
> end comments
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> REAL TALK, NIGGA.
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Justin Doerr <justinsfca at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Why I would love to Ron, but I can't. You might place me under citizen's
>>> arrest for trespassing remember?
>>> And besides all my hacking related questions and answers to them I get
>>> from people off the list and on other forums. I keep all boring stuff off
>>> the discuss list and all drama related material on the discuss list. It's
>>> more entertaining that way. And besides I think it's a justified post. We
>>> don't need to be calling the police and swarming people. It's not like
>>> she's Pablo Escobar and we need to do a drug raid.
>>>
>>> This whole issue is stupid. And I for one am going to say something
>>> about it. I don't care if it offends anyone. I wasn't put on this planet to
>>> sugar coat things and say only things that make people feel comfortable and
>>> warm and fuzzy inside. I'm real.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> * From: * Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com>;
>>> * To: * Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>;
>>> * Cc: * <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>; Frantisek
>>> Apfelbeck <frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com>;
>>> * Subject: * Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] As much as I think Cynthia is
>>> crazy, I still find the situation unethical and stupid.
>>> * Sent: * Wed, May 2, 2012 4:26:23 PM
>>>
>>>   Who cares.  Noisebridge is for hacking.  Stop causing drama and let's
>>> get back to that.  I suggest everyone on this thread attends a meeting to
>>> understand what noisebridge is about(hacking not drama).
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Ever Falling <everfalling at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> > GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED IN A HACKERSPACE IS ONLY GOING TO DO
>>>> MORE HARM THAN GOOD!!! When you call the po-pos they fill out reports in
>>>> their little memo pads AND DOCUMENT THEM!!!
>>>> That means that when you get the police involved more often, the
>>>> likelihood of them wanting to probe an investigation on this place
>>>> increases!!!
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how many other hackerspaces have such an extreme distrust of
>>>> the police. I think if we were a little more open about Noisebridge and
>>>> what it does there wouldn't need to be such a worry about what they think
>>>> of us. As it is all they ever see is nutters having to be expelled from the
>>>> premises. If we're gonna continue to treat the space like a treehouse with
>>>> a sign that says 'no cops allowed' then it'll be no wonder if they start
>>>> thinking maybe we're doing some weird shit. WHAT *IS *YOUR FASCINATION WITH
>>>> MY FORBIDDEN CLOSET OF MYSTERY?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Frantisek Apfelbeck <
>>>> frantisekapfelbeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi to all:
>>>>>
>>>>> As a member of the community I think that the decision to remove her
>>>>> might have been the best idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another friend of mine agrees on that remark.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>>>>
>>>>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>>>>>
>>>>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Ghandi
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Andy Isaacson <adi at hexapodia.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 09:56:03PM -0700, Arnold Murray wrote:
>>>>>> > Justin, please stop trying to Friend me on
>>>>>> http://www.xtube.com/user_favorite_videos.php?u=JustinSFCA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realize it's "fun" to pwn Justin, but creating accounts in the name
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> other people isn't awesome.  Or alternatively (and much less likely)
>>>>>> it's also not awesome to publish a link of two accounts belonging to
>>>>>> someone, against their wishes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's especially unkind to do this because I blocked Justin from
>>>>>> posting
>>>>>> to the list (again), and I'd feel compelled to unblock him if he
>>>>>> actually has a legitimate complaint with your behavior and needed to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able to defend himself in the same forum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, please don't do that again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -andy
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>> Systems Engineer
>>>
>>>
>>
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