[Noisebridge-discuss] fucking up noisebridge
Tony Longshanks LeTigre
anthonyletigre at gmail.com
Thu May 3 19:14:34 PDT 2012
Although I wasn't @ NB on the day in question, I tend to agree w/ the
negative reviews of the Cynthia debacle, and have had the feeling lately
that some people seem to be on a weird power kick with targeting the next
person to evict from the space. This isn't "Survivor: Hackerspace." Cynthia
needed help, but she was never someone I felt so threatened by that I
wanted her removed by the police.
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Flatline <flatline at hackbloc.org> wrote:
> I agree completely with this. Calling the cops unnecessarily does a
> FUCK of a lot more to make noisebridge an unsafe space than having a few
> wingnuts around. It makes many people feel unsafe in the space including
> myself. Say what you want about Cynthia (and believe me I have plenty
> to say) she never made me feel unsafe. This action does.
> On 05/03/2012 03:21 PM, Jake wrote:
> > Say what you want about Cynthia not belonging at noisebridge; she wasn't
> > here to hack, she could be annoying at times.
> > The fact is that the kicking out of cynthia has been a huge drama fest
> > makes noisebridge look bad. I think it was not worth it.
> > My friend Stan who has been hacking since before most of us were born
> > resembles cynthia in some ways; an old person who enjoys talking and
> > cooking more than hacking. He is also the admin of the SPAZ server. He
> > comes to noisebridge and sometimes cooks gourmet food for everyone.
> > He has been involved and witness to MANY collectively run spaces, like
> > Cannery and Project One and a bunch we've never heard of.
> > And he says this is a BAD SIGN for noisebridge.
> > Let's pull out of this nose-dive.
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:01:36 -0700
> > From: Stan Osborne <stan at ana dot com>
> > Subject: NB craziness
> > Jake,
> > If this is true, I can not justify supporting NB anymore. I know
> > everything she says about her behavior at NB and her general cleanliness
> > is true. She is an MD and has at least one science degree, so AFAIK
> > are many good reasons for her continued presence at NB. Not being
> > financially able to be a full member now seems to have saved me from
> > regretting I gave them much, if any money. IMHO her mental health was
> > improving from contact at NB with healthy and intelligent people.
> > NB now is already falling into one of those collectives where a few
> > evil people are working to drive out the rest. Many collectives
> > have withered and failed for reasons such as this incident.
> > Is there any documentation showing exactly who ganged up on her?
> > Stan
> > | To: Stan Osborne <stan at ana.com>
> > | From: cynthia lee <cynthia.jeanne.lee at gmail.com>
> > | Subject: Re: when u gonna show?
> > | Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:52:57 -0700
> > |
> > | Stan, You must not have a current source there...i was kicked out of
> > | Noisebridge by a band of vigilantes who called the police to say i
> > | trespassing and disruptive (apparently for coming in and cleaning up
> > | them!) because they really had no substantive complaint (a vague
> that I am
> > | smelly, messy, and, get this...loud) they are so vague on the
> > | that it is suspicious for made -up stuff
> > | I can't be there tomorrow but would like to run into you anyway. I
> > | check Internet tomorrow AM and if there is another location I can
> see u at,
> > | let me know
> > |
> > | thank you for all the assistance and friendliness u have shown me
> > |
> > | --
> > | Cynthia Jeanne Lee MD
> > | http://cynthiajeanneleemd.wordpress.com
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