[Noisebridge-discuss] Drama

jim jim at well.com
Fri May 4 13:06:19 PDT 2012



    My understanding is that the original concept 
of Noisebridge was to be open to the public. I like 
that idea as it promotes the concepts of hackers 
and hacking to the general public. 
    Note the tools in the "dirty shop" and the 
electronics-oriented tools and the fact of the 
cooking-bio area extend the idea of "hacking" far 
beyond the realm of computers. 



On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 12:48 -0700, Jehan Tremback wrote:
> That doesn't make any sense in the real world. Who decides who is a
> hacker, and why do they have that power? Right now it seems like the
> power has been assigned to the most aggressive person around at any
> given moment. It's not like the space is ever really packed unless its
> an event, and if someone is "not hacking" (still no actual way to make
> the judgement), how does it harm anyone? I think that the real problem
> here is people walking around like they own the place and can give
> orders, simply because everyone else is too meek say anything when it
> happens.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I can see the appeal of wanting to keep it a technically
> focused space, but there is no way to enforce this, outside of hex
> notation door passwords (still an awesome idea). It's either a public
> space, or a private club. Both work well. Having random people walking
> around confronting other people like vigilantes (and calling the
> cops!) does not. I think that the members should, at a meeting, look
> at the circumstances of this incident, and ban one of the people
> involved if necessary.
> 
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com>
> wrote:
>         I'd rather we just chucked all the non hackers, homeless, and
>         insane
>         and got back to hacking.
>         
>         -Matt
>         
>         On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jehan Tremback
>         <jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:
>         > Has anyone thought of banning people who harass other
>         members
>         > and frivolously involve law enforcement? I wasn't there, but
>         it sounds like
>         > people I have observed being douches before have taken
>         things to a whole new
>         > level of doucheyness. Refund the man his membership dues and
>         86 him.
>         
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