[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: drama-o-meter

Brink of Complexity brink.0x3f at gmail.com
Tue May 8 16:26:51 PDT 2012


Let's not forget the false positives and other disagreements about what constitutes drama is a serious drawback to machine identification as well.
Some folks are really quick to try and shoehorn the every message in the list as fitting into either "hacking" or "drama", with a narrow description of the former, and everything else thrown into the latter.  How shall we culture hack with that kind of attitude?  

- Brink


On May 8, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Matt Joyce wrote:

> Yes but we haven't been tagging threads with the drama tag well so you
> don't have a result field in the training set.
> 
> That's a huge issue.
> 
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Mike Schachter
> <mschachter at eigenminds.com> wrote:
>> Hey MLers,
>> 
>> If anyone is interested in implementing a "drama detection"
>> algorithm, we should have an ML meetup about it. There's
>> tons of training examples on the archives of the noisebridge-discuss
>> list.
>> 
>> At first glance we could probably use tf-idf along with the network
>> structure of emails to do unsupervised learning, then train a supervised
>> learner on the manually-improved data.
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tf*idf
>> 
>>  mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Jake <jake at spaz.org>
>> Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:48 PM
>> Subject: [Noisebridge-discuss] drama-o-meter
>> To: "noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net"
>> <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> 
>> 
>> can someone code up a thing that looks at the discuss mailing list traffic
>> and measures what portion of it is drama?  it should be easy.
>> 
>> a human will have to declare threads to be drama or not, and if they are,
>> and the total traffic for the week exceeds a certain percentage (say 50%)
>> the moderation automatically chokes off any further posts on any of those
>> threads until the percentage cuts back down.
>> 
>> i view the discuss list on the web portal like this:
>> 
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2012-May/date.html#end
>> 
>> and as you can see, it's really hard to find the hacking-related posts.
>> 
>> -jake
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