[Noisebridge-discuss] A CALL TO NOISEBRIDGE HACKERS AND COMMUNITY AT LARGE: BANNING RAYC/ROBERT?

Mark Ellis everfalling at gmail.com
Sun May 13 16:57:17 PDT 2012


WTF!?!?!?!?!? Not again! Cut this complaining about banning shit out!


Seriously, be quiet. While it's yet to be seen if banning is warranted after mediation it's still a viable option if the offender is unable to be civil in the space. Pitching fits doesn't help anything.


On May 13, 2012, at 2:54 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

> 
>    WTF?!?!? Not again! Cut this banning shit out! 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 13:13 -0700, Gavin Knight wrote:
>> I said "We want to talk about asking you to leave the space at the
>> next meeting"
>> 
>> 
>> I wanted to be perfectly clear, that it was a concern, but it is
>> ultimately a community decision,
>> but I think it's time to have a discussion. This is how I understand
>> consensus to work.
>> 
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Robert Chu
>> <robertayoungchu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>        Robert Albert Young Chu,
>> 
>> 
>>        Good Morning Noisebridge community,
>> 
>> 
>>        about 45 minutes ago, I spoke with Gavin Knight, I told Gavin
>>        that I was planning on leaving the space in about a half an
>>        hour to possibly make him feel more comftable, then right
>>        after he interjected by saying "That is not a problem, "we
>>        spoke" and we are going to ban you from the space. I am not
>>        sure who the "we" are, nor do I know the reasons; as when I
>>        asked him he said that he can't talk about it. 
>> 
>> 
>>        With the conversation that transpired, I can think of some
>>        paramount issues that other community goers may have with me,
>>        but not to the level of being banned. If I've caused a problem
>>        with others, I've always been open to working toward
>>        resolution, on both an individual level, and a community
>>        level. 
>> 
>> 
>>        I truly feel that there has been a lynch mob (as there usually
>>        is) who has been systematically been working toward a day like
>>        this Tuesday. In addition, the people who I feel are a part of
>>        this mob-like mentality, have never really decided to mediate,
>>        open up a channel of communication with me at all. Instead it
>>        seems like they are just taking the "Let's make this swift and
>>        kick him out approach."
>> 
>> 
>>        Despite the select group of people who haven't yet decided to
>>        work toward any resolution with what ever problem they may
>>        have with me. In addition, I've always have been open to
>>        communication and working toward resolutions. 
>> 
>> 
>>        I ask of the people who think I should be banned come and
>>        voice your opinion, and also listen to what these arguments /
>>        concerns against me, and voice if you think "If they will be
>>        just for banning me."
>> 
>> 
>>        There are a few people who I've spoken with, who already think
>>        it is ridiculous.
>> 
>> 
>>        Thank you for taking the time to read this. 
>>        Robert Albert Young Chu aka. RAYC
>> 
>> 
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