[Noisebridge-discuss] stop pretending to be me
jna at retina.net
Fri May 18 00:04:41 PDT 2012
Eloquent, yet, stupid.
Thank you for your advice.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Rigel Christian <rigelc at gmail.com> wrote:
> i'm sure i'm going to get flamed here, but:
> cram it up your ass.
> if you're not committed enough to, your own self, come down to the
> space, cut through the bullshit, and see if there is something there
> that is worth nurturing, then you're just a fucking troll.
> and if so, then as i said
> cram it up your ass.
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:49 AM, John Adams <jna at retina.net> wrote:
> > From the outside, looking in...
> > I was a founding member of one the earliest US hackerspaces, the l0pht,
> > before we knew what the word was. This was when the words Open Source
> > exist and all we knew of was the League of Programming Freedom, which
> > later become the Free Software Foundation, thanks to RMS.
> > It was when reverse engineering electronics wasn't much of a crime and
> > of the laws regarding "Cybersecurity" didn't exist yet. We started off
> > because our girlfriends and wives (yes, some of us were that old) hated
> > having all that technology littering our apartments and we all wanted
> > place to work.
> > Women in our organization like Limor Fried (ladyada) and Window Snyder
> > forged new ground for women in technology and rallied against male-driven
> > engineering fields to create new opportunities to teach others
> > and security, for both men and women (and girls and boys.)
> > If not for our ability to come together and share what we knew, none of
> > would have had Internet access or the chance to learn and work on Unix,
> > which back then was extremely difficult to do (we had to cobble together
> > Sparcstations and Vax machines from junk). Even Slackware was in it's
> > nascent phase of development and Linux was very, very unstable. These
> > experiences, building these machines, built careers for people.
> > What we did back then was more than likely illegal, and we had to work
> > together to get access to technology. Our small group of people went on
> > do great things, from speaking in front of congress, to breaking RSA's
> > SecurID, and forming great companies like @stake and VeraCode. All
> > we worked together on shared interests.
> > What I do have to say is that the actions of some of the people on this
> > saddens me, and I am just responding to what I see here on the list. It
> > keeps me from becoming an active member of Noisebridge. It keeps me from
> > getting on my bicycle, riding to the mission and sharing what I know (and
> > learning new things from) all of you because my perception of the
> actions of
> > a few make it sound like a wonderful hackerspace has become overrun with
> > drama and madness.
> > It keeps me from donating money and certainly keeps me from helping out.
> > You've got a permissive society here, perhaps too permissive to permit
> > things to happen.
> > Cut it out. Convince me I'm wrong. I think all of you are smart enough to
> > work through this and to realize the value in the resource that you have
> > worked so hard to create and the insanity in allowing this to continue
> > the path you've chosen.
> > --john
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