Sun May 6 10:33:01 PDT 2012
of the exact model/ clock) HP Proliants, with a minimum of 4Gigs (even
though I think it was 8Gigs ECC, and Registered.)each. Some switches, and
the cabinet its self.
I am looking on Ebay as I did before when I wrote the previous email, and
it seems that my estimate of ~$2,000 - ~$3,000 for all the gear is about
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Ben Kochie <superq at gmail.com> wrote:
> I saw the servers that were tossed. It was maybe worth $300 total.
> And maybe $200 for the half rack cabinet. The stuff was eWaste.
> $2000-3000 is an exaggeration.
> We didn't ask for server equipment at the space. We didn't want
> server equipment at the space. We already had two other full cabinets
> and a bunch of other eWaste quality servers. They were all taking up
> space doing nobody any good.
> Donations are donations, noisebridge can do whatever it wants with
> them. We cleared out the eWaste and kept the good stuff in the rack
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Robert Chu <robertayoungchu at gmail.com>
> > Hello Noisebridge Community.
> > I am writing this email on behalf of the good that there is in Robert
> > and also because I don't think that he should be banned. Before you
> > enraged with this email (or even annoyed), I encourage you to read on.
> > I can only infer (from my experience with Rob 2.0) the situation is as
> > follows:
> > ******ROBERT 2.0******
> > - Is one of the best software hackers that I've ever met at Noisebridge
> > - HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN DOWN TO TEACH AND HELP OTHERS with any questions
> > have. (As he only said know if he was super busy).
> > - Came to Noisebridge and crashed a couple of public computers (with the
> > intent of making them better- this was done do-ocrattically) also
> because he
> > didn't know that it would be a problem to do so.
> > - Had taken apart a couple of scooters (when I spoke with him, it was his
> > intent to build a better one with the parts. I spoke to Rob about this a
> > while ago when this issue came up. It seemed that HACKING apart the
> > to make a better one was completely valid since Noisebridge is a
> > and it has been communally agreed upon that everything at Noisebridge is
> > HACKABLE except the Membershelves.
> > - Robert brought a cabinet of servers to Noisebridge, and was taking to
> > people to do some awesome tech stuff such as clustering, and even teach a
> > class (teaching is most excellent at Noisebridge).
> > - Robert 2.0 had slept a couple of nights at Noisebirdge (Before it was
> > communally looked down upon).
> > - When Robert 2.0 was allowed in the space he did make a lot of messes
> > other people had to clean up (which is why part of the reason some people
> > got upset to the point of wanting him to not come back).
> > - He is a hard person to communicate with.
> > - Robert 2.0 has often been coming back to Noisebridge for various
> > and has left every time after being asked to leave.
> > WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ROBERT 2.0
> > - Robert 2.0 has been asked to leave the space and not come back until he
> > goes through a Noisebridge Moderation process (which I don't think he
> > to moderate with the current moderators).
> > - I would estimate that about $2,000 to $3,000 worth of servers that he
> > going to donate to Noisebridge were pushed out onto the street (without
> > letting Robert 2.0 know that this was going to happen), and are now GONE.
> > That is $2,000 - $3,000 dollars worth of servers let the COMMUNITY know
> > this unjustice was done. IHO throwing away a hacker's hardware is a huge
> > insult to a hacker. He could have been asked to move them out of
> > if they were really that much of a problem.
> > - I would estimate that the damage that Robert could have done to
> > Noisebridge is at most ~$500 in man hours or whatever, where as the
> > of money he lost in the form of hardware is far greater.
> > In conclusion,
> > - Robert 2.0 is still upset that ~$2,000 - $3,000 in servers was just
> > trashed without his knowledge or even being communicated to (TOTALLY
> > UNEXCELLENT IMHO), and the person who was responsible wasn't even
> > reprimanded at all, just because he has been a huge part of the
> > community.
> > - I feel that there Robert should be allowed to return to Noisebridge,
> > only after we figure out what the problems that others are having with
> > (AS ARE DOING WITH CYNTHIA), and work them out. I also am pretty sure he
> > does not want to moderate with the current people that defaulted as
> > moderators, and think that I would be able to moderate this situation
> > because of my repor and relationship with Robert.
> > Let me get in contact with Robert and see what his goals are and what his
> > expectations for being a part of the Noisebridge community are.
> > Since I am still on vacation from Noisebridge feel free to tell him to
> > contact me if he shows up.
> > robertayoungchu at gmail.com - 415.935.3597
> > Banning Robert would be another example of Noisebridge Hackerspace
> > out another %100 authentic hacker (probably one of the best in the
> > Noisebridge eco-system).
> > Please Noisebridge (at community at large) let me sync up with Robert 2.0
> > before any decision is even discussed. I would still be pissed off at
> > person who is responsible and at Noisebridge to if $2,000 - $3,000 (maybe
> > even more) worth of hardware was just tossed. I also feel that that part
> > being over-looked on Noisebridge's part (why don't we ban the person
> > his hardware to the curb?).
> > Robert Albert Young Chu
> > "Keep hackers in the hackerspace."
> > Rayc
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