[Noisebridge-discuss] Extremely sketchy event w/ bikes just now

Sai i at s.ai
Thu Apr 11 15:41:39 UTC 2013


I would strongly advise against "donating" any abandoned bikes. You do
not own them; that would be considered theft until the time for
reclaiming them runs out officially, which can be years. (I tried
looking through CA law just now to figure out what period applies, and
it's not clear.)

Turn them over to the police instead. I think they give you the option
of "I want to have it if it's unclaimed".

While we're at it: register your bikes with the police, so that your
bike does get turned in, they call you. ;-)

jof: The bikes did not seem to be locked when he removed them. One
person thought he saw the person unchain a bike (presumably using a
key), but wasn't sure about it.

Nick: We weren't sure enough that they *weren't* his to physically
stop him from taking them. The only other legal option would have been
to call the police immediately, delay him from taking the bikes, and
have them sort out ownership. My guess is that he'd've been arrested
for drug somethingorother had police been called. We had about 30
seconds to decide what to do.

- Sai

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Ben Kochie <superq at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I am going to start putting date stamp tags on bikes that look
> abandoned after the Tuesday meetings. Bikes that have not moved will be
> photographed and removed at the next meeting. They will be donated to the
> bike kitchen.
>
> On Apr 10, 2013 8:38 PM, "Sai" <i at s.ai> wrote:
>>
>> Someone who seemed to be significantly disturbed (tweaking?) was just
>> hustled out of Noisebridge and asked not to return except at a
>> meeting.
>>
>> He took with him several bikes that he claimed to have been working
>> on. We're not sure whether they were in fact his, or whether he just
>> stole them.
>>
>> Here's short video of him leaving: http://youtu.be/r1hGw_dL90Q (sorry
>> I didn't get better footage).
>>
>> 1. If you can confirm who owns the bikes in the video, or who the
>> person is, please speak up.
>>
>> 2. If you are storing your bike at Noisebridge, please lock it, and
>> please label it prominently with your name.
>>
>> 3. Please don't store your bike at Noisebridge for long periods of
>> time, or we will probably think it's abandoned property.
>>
>> When something like this happens, we have very little time to decide
>> how to respond appropriately.
>>
>> It would be very helpful for us to have an easy way whom a bike
>> belongs to, so that we know whether we're dealing with a thief (in
>> which case I would call the police to make an arrest) vs someone who's
>> just being a dick with the space (in which case I think it's
>> appropriate to ask them to leave).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Sai
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