[Noisebridge-discuss] Extremely sketchy event w/ bikes just now]

name1355 at tormail.org name1355 at tormail.org
Fri Apr 12 00:43:37 UTC 2013


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Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Extremely sketchy event w/ bikes just now
From:    name1355 at tormail.org
Date:    Fri, April 12, 2013 12:36 am
To:      "Ken M. Haggerty" <kenmhaggerty at gmail.com>
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Sorry, I'm dropping in on the middle of this so I don't have all the
details.  Having said that, I have a solution regarding Ken's most recent
comment.

You could "hire" me as a bouncer.  You could come up with a set of security
standards at the next meeting to be enforced.  I have nothing better to
do, and I've always loved Noisebridge.  I could use the idle time spent
there to study and code.  I'm not available until I get back to the Bay
Area though, which could be a few months.

Also regarding the bikes.  I think if you just set the bikes on the curb
and make an anonymous call to a Bike Kitchen volunteer before hand, that
will solve any legal problems, no?

-Nameless

> Sorry for the ambiguity and too-quick response.
>
> While I understand and appreciate trepidation and good judgment when
> deciding to involve the police or any government agencies, Noisebridge
> will
> cease to be a place where I am comfortable if safety-critical help is
> delayed or forbidden from anyone at Noisebridge because of another
> member's
> well- or ill-found paranoia.
>
> Maestro's original email outlining protocol was fine by me, but subsequent
> emails including the notion of "the police are harmful to every community"
> are worrisome. I always worry about anyone who deals in absolutes,
> regardless of political leanings.
>
> I still don't have any good answers to the safety situation other than
> moving Noisebridge out of the Mission (which seems implausible for now) or
> other ideas that go against Noisebridge's anarchistic and open culture.
>
> I don't believe turning unclaimed bikes over to police means that the
> police have to enter Noisebridge, but I am unfamiliar with such procedure
> so others should clarify if that is the case.
>
> -Ken
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Mitchel McAllister
> <xonimmortal at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Are you talking about maestro's
>> counter-counter-counter-counter-culture-culture stance, or Ron's
>> statement?
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 4/11/13, Ken M. Haggerty <kenmhaggerty at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>> If we have such idiotic policies in place then I will certainly cease to
>> be a part of Noisebridge.
>> -Ken
>>
>>
>>
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