[Noisebridge-discuss] Daravinne / stolen data

hep dis at gruntle.org
Wed Apr 17 23:10:52 UTC 2013


can we please keep roomate drama off this list?

-hep


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe you, and I will now stop posting about this issue. Gladly. And
> actually, believe it or not, I'm about to go have a very beautiful day,
> because it's gorgeous out, & even if I never get any of that data back,
> I'll survive & the world will remain beautiful.
>
> But I want it back.
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Josh Hertel <jhertel242 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> You are right about that. I should have and I'm sorry. Life got
>> complicated and the issue got pushed out of my head. I am sorry I didn't do
>> anything before. I will take care of your data. I would just ask you to
>> stop posting about this issue. It will be taken care of in a positive way.
>>
>> -Joshua Hertel
>>
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Tony Longshanks LeTigre <anthonyletigre at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Josh Hertel <jhertel242 at yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* Liz Henry <lizhenry at gmail.com>; Ryan Rawson <ryanobjc at gmail.com>;
>> Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:50 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Daravinne / stolen data
>>
>> And you know, if you really cared about the issue, Josh, you could've
>> made a feeble attempt to do something when I first notified you of the
>> issue, several um was it weeks ago? Before I felt the need to post this
>> publicly?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
>> anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If someone took your work for the past 3 years & sadistically withheld
>> it, you'd have "negative energy" too. Give me a break, Kermit.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Josh Hertel <jhertel242 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>> Tony, no one needs this negative energy in the world. I will find a way
>> to get your data back to you. I would ask you to please not drag her name
>> through the mud, especially on a open forum like this.
>> I know you had a falling out and I'm sorry about that, putting this
>> negativity out there is not good for anyone.
>>
>> -Joshua Hertel
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Liz Henry <lizhenry at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Ryan Rawson <ryanobjc at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Noisebridge Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:44 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Daravinne / stolen data
>>
>> I just don't see any need to dredge through all the interpersonal details
>> and drama here, or any need to judge on whether people have it together to
>> back up their data or not. It also has nothing to do with "social capital".
>>
>> Why keep someone's data from them when it is trivial to hand it over to
>> them, whether by uploading it or by sticking it on a usb drive. Jeez.  I
>> have ones to spare and have offered them multiple times to daravinne.
>>
>> Daravinne, do you have the data or did you erase it? That is basically
>> the only question.  I will come to you and transfer the data.   That way
>> you will not have to deal with any sort of drama, minimal annoyance, and
>> Tony will have his stuff back. I know Danny is also perfectly willing to do
>> this.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Liz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Ryan Rawson <ryanobjc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I kind of know Dara, I have a shared social circle with her.  I dont
>> really know you though, only via mailing lists.
>>
>> The reality is this isnt how it's done.  You use your social capital and
>> backchannel that shit.
>>
>> That you are going so public, says to me, that you don't have that social
>> capital. That's too bad.  Surely someone can do you a favor and
>> intermediate you - like Danny, etc?
>>
>> Can't put the genie back in the bottle.  Next time, work your social
>> network.
>>
>> Now to the actual email content, I dont like the robin hood mentality,
>> its a reversible logic to me. If someone achieves their moral state by
>> virtue of not having worldly possessions, why isnt the opposite true?  As
>> for her comments, dara is doing you a lot of favors here, and dealing with
>> the criminal justice system is also a big thing as well.  In terms of
>> timely return of your data (which appears to be the KEY issue here), she
>> isn't under obligation, and I know she has been out of town for a week.  As
>> for her "incriminating IM lines" - they sound like something she said, and
>> they seem like they could be a reasonable assessment of the issue.  I
>> personally don't have any 16GB flash drives I want to give away either, so
>> its a thing.
>>
>> And also, its 2013 - one last word, CLOUD.  16GB is a trivial amount of
>> data, might I suggest dropbox.com, mega.co.nz and many others.
>>  Especially for someone who knows he is at risk of having things
>> confiscated by police, etc. Use mega.co.nz (50 GB free) for cold
>> storage, dropbox for active.  Problem solved.
>>
>> -ryan
>> ps: I'm not sure I can approve of calling her 'cunt'. Is this what all
>> assertive females get for not bending to other people's will?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Tony Longshanks LeTigre <
>> anthonyletigre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Recently I was arrested after 6 months of living in the darkroom of an
>> unused science lab on the UCSF Parnassus campus. The police attempted to
>> charge me with burglary (which the prosecuting attorney dropped) but only
>> the misdemeanor charges of trespassing & illegal lodging stuck.* They took
>> a Macbook Pro computer that had been loaned to me by Daravinne aka
>> Christina Olson who is the self-styled producer of 5 Minutes of Fame,
>> insinuating that I must have stolen it. I did not steal it; Christina Olson
>> gave it to me as "a long-term loan" last year when we were both working on
>> the Noisebridge zine project I inaugurated, ZiP. At the time the police
>> confiscated the Macbook, it contained all of the ZiP layouts & associated
>> files, plus all the InDesign, Photoshop & Illustrator work I'd done over
>> the last several years, plus a vast spreadsheet-slash-database in progress
>> containing all the info on properties & alternative housing in SF I'd been
>> collecting obsessively over the course of the preceding year & a half, my
>> journals/diaries for the past 10 years, all of my writing creative
>> journalistic & otherwise—the police also took my thumb drive, which was my
>> only (partial) backup of all this material. The police told me only
>> Christina Olson could reclaim the computer, since it was registered to her
>> name. Christina Olson & I agreed that Christina Olson would take back her
>> Macbook (so it could continue to sit unused in her overstuffed apartment
>> while she sits in front of her other, newer, fancier computer) once it was
>> retrieved from the police. I asked Christina Olson to let me get my files
>> off her Macbook before she took it back. She agreed. (I believe I have the
>> chat logs of this stored on the computer I'm currently borrowing in lieu of
>> not having a computer at all.) I recently found out that she went behind my
>> back & reclaimed the computer from the police like a month ago. She
>> casually revealed this via IM, following this revelation up with a number
>> of lovely statements including
>>
>> *You are a pain in the ass to deal with*
>> *when ya stab me in the back, use my vulnerability due to police/court
>> custody to steal my fuckin files, you're damn right, I'm a motherfuckin
>> SCORPION & you haven't seen the half of it!*
>>
>> and
>>
>> *You are a failure as a human being*
>> *BWAHAhaha yes Your Honor!*
>>
>> The C-word was made for people like this. I don't like Christina Olson. I
>> don't wanna be her friend or talk to her. I just want my shit back. She
>> told me it totals 16GB & she's not willing to let me transfer it on her
>> thumb drive. I recently sold a painting so have enough $ to buy a thumb
>> drive that will hold 16GB. I don't think she's gonna communicate with me,
>> though, so I'm posting this in hopes The Community may help me put some
>> pressure on her to get my shit back. The computer is hers—no problem—the
>> personal files & info on it are mine. I know she hangs out in the chat
>> rooms quite a bit, if that helps. Daravinne = Christina Olson.
>>
>> Thanks for any help anyone can offer. Signing off for the day NOW & I'll
>> be back again tomorrow (but less wordy, I promise)
>>
>> +11+
>>
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