[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Stuff is piling up on the floor of the member shelves.

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Wed Dec 4 23:25:01 UTC 2013


Actually you know what.  Here is how I feel.

Imagine noisebridge is my apartment.  I have this area where I store things
that I like to be able to get to.  I have house guests over (anyone who
visits noisebrdge) and they keep leaving crap on the floor preventing me
from getting to the things I want to get to.  You know what I do?  I stop
letting them in my apartment.  What does noisebridge do?  Something
completely different that allows the things to keep preventing me from
getting to the things I like to be able to get to.  This includes physical
and non physical objects.  We are missing a logical step in preventing that
and I have no clue how to fix it but that is what is going on.  We keep
talking about the color of the bike shed without actually building the bike
shed really.

This is how I feel.   <3 you noisebridge!


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> IMHO, I don't care what is in the suitcase.  It is not excellent to leave
> the member shelf area a shithole where you can't walk down it.  A suit case
> in the space (given past experiences) were usually peoples "apartments".
>  They contained all of their worldly possessions.  If that person is a
> "Well known member of noisebridge", they should know better and I propose
> they go on a hiatus for a while to rethink their actions and how they
> affect the space.  I also suggest this for everyone who has contributed to
> making the member shelf area a mess by you know, leaving things on the
> ground and making it unusable for actual people trying to hack.  Perhaps I
> was not very excellent in the way I got my point across.  Perhaps you are
> too understanding of this "Well known member of noisebridge" and he has
> some political capital that allows him to continue this behavior.  The
> world will never know!
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Get a room, you two!
>>
>> Jeffrey
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:48 PM, spinach williams <
>> spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Text is an ambiguous way to communicate, I'll try to clarify. What I
>>>> meant was that people seemed to be overreacting and projecting way more on
>>>> Ronald's words than he said or probably intended. I just noted that Ronald
>>>> didn't say all that much to get this derision heaped on him. I didn't mean
>>>> anything like, "the 'winner' is the argument with the lowest word count".
>>>> And I wouldn't characterize your "how kind" comment as part of the
>>>> overreaction.
>>>>
>>> intention does not determine impact.
>>>
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> Ronald Cotoni
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