[Noisebridge-discuss] [drama] Stuff is piling up on the floor of the member shelves.

Jeffrey Carl Faden jeffreyatw at gmail.com
Wed Dec 4 23:25:52 UTC 2013


Please don't compare Noisebridge to a residence.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually you know what.  Here is how I feel.
>
> Imagine noisebridge is my apartment.  I have this area where I store
> things that I like to be able to get to.  I have house guests over (anyone
> who visits noisebrdge) and they keep leaving crap on the floor preventing
> me from getting to the things I want to get to.  You know what I do?  I
> stop letting them in my apartment.  What does noisebridge do?  Something
> completely different that allows the things to keep preventing me from
> getting to the things I like to be able to get to.  This includes physical
> and non physical objects.  We are missing a logical step in preventing that
> and I have no clue how to fix it but that is what is going on.  We keep
> talking about the color of the bike shed without actually building the bike
> shed really.
>
> This is how I feel.   <3 you noisebridge!
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> IMHO, I don't care what is in the suitcase.  It is not excellent to leave
>> the member shelf area a shithole where you can't walk down it.  A suit case
>> in the space (given past experiences) were usually peoples "apartments".
>>  They contained all of their worldly possessions.  If that person is a
>> "Well known member of noisebridge", they should know better and I propose
>> they go on a hiatus for a while to rethink their actions and how they
>> affect the space.  I also suggest this for everyone who has contributed to
>> making the member shelf area a mess by you know, leaving things on the
>> ground and making it unusable for actual people trying to hack.  Perhaps I
>> was not very excellent in the way I got my point across.  Perhaps you are
>> too understanding of this "Well known member of noisebridge" and he has
>> some political capital that allows him to continue this behavior.  The
>> world will never know!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Get a room, you two!
>>>
>>> Jeffrey
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:48 PM, spinach williams <
>>> spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Text is an ambiguous way to communicate, I'll try to clarify. What I
>>>>> meant was that people seemed to be overreacting and projecting way more on
>>>>> Ronald's words than he said or probably intended. I just noted that Ronald
>>>>> didn't say all that much to get this derision heaped on him. I didn't mean
>>>>> anything like, "the 'winner' is the argument with the lowest word count".
>>>>> And I wouldn't characterize your "how kind" comment as part of the
>>>>> overreaction.
>>>>>
>>>> intention does not determine impact.
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Ronald Cotoni
>> Systems Engineer
>>
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> Ronald Cotoni
> Systems Engineer
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