[Noisebridge-discuss] Consensus proposal: renaming member categories

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Mon Dec 9 18:32:48 UTC 2013


Ooo. Yeah, David brings up a really good point. We probably shouldn't
rename "members" in that case.

Tom, is there a reason for the name change suggestion? I'm not sure I see a
strong case for it. Also, "council" and "board of directors" is easy to
conflate.


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, davidfine <d at vidfine.com> wrote:

>  We don't actually get to decide what it means to be a "member" in a 501c3
> non-profit organization. There is state law and legal precedent, and
> "member" is word with special legal meaning. We can't change the name just
> because we like the sound of it. This was all hashed out when the
> membership process was created and should not be dismantled without good
> reason and legal aid.
> --David
>
>
> On 12/9/13, 9:25 AM, Al Sweigart wrote:
>
> Leif,
>
>  We get it. You don't like Tom. But stop trying to frame all of his
> Noisebridge policy suggestions as trolling or somehow insincere. Renaming
> the membership is an actual consensus proposal, and the "high cabal" part
> was clearly a joke. If you look on the consensus page, it says "Noisebridge
> Council". (Personal note: yeah, I think we could come up with a better name
> than council. And I'm fine with the current names.)
>
>  Please quit purposefully misinterpreting what other people say.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 06:44:52PM -0800, Tom Lowenthal wrote:
>> > I have proposed the following on the [upcoming consensus items][1] page:
>> >
>> > > Renaming the category “Noisebridge Members” to the “Noisebridge
>> Council”, and
>> > > renaming the category “Associate Members” to “Noisebridge Members”.
>> This change
>> > > extends not only to our operations, but also to our bylaws, so that
>> the effect is only
>> > > a change of name but does not change the rights or privileges of any
>> person or
>> > > category of people.
>> >
>> > If this topic is of interest to you, I invite you to come discuss it
>> > on Tuesday. I'm not a huge fan of the string “Noisebridge Council”,
>> > and would be interested in other options. “Noisebridge High Cabal”,
>> > perhaps?
>>
>>  Tom,
>>
>> Please quit trolling Noisebridge.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~leif
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