[Noisebridge-discuss] misogynist loser visiting noisebridge

Adrian Chadd adrian.chadd at gmail.com
Tue Dec 24 19:46:06 UTC 2013


Hi,

"two literal rapists." Would you mind going into more details?


-a

On 24 December 2013 10:25, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
> Danny,
> This is simply false; there are absolutely privileges to membership besides
> blocking, though most of them are recent.  For example, you are not supposed
> to be in the space unless you are a member or sponsored by a member
> (associate or capitol-M).  While anyone can ask someone to leave and not
> come back until the next meeting (at which point people can have a vote to
> ban them), but the anti-harassment policy allows a member to ban someone who
> is violating the anti-harassment policy, without having to go through
> consensus.  If such an action is decided to have been done in error, the
> membership can then allow them back via consensus.  Essentially, for the
> case of harassment, the way we remove harassers is flipped: now a harasser
> is removed by default, and it takes consensus to bring them back, instead of
> people who have been accused of rape multiple times being allowed to stay if
> they can find just a single patsy to vote for them.  One of the concessions
> that was made at the meeting was that only members would be able to
> banhammer a harasser.  We also had to accept a trial time period instead of
> a permanent policy and agree that it wouldn't be allowed to be implemented
> retroactively to get it passed.  I'm not a fan of those concessions, but
> given that there were not one but two literal rapists at that meeting, I
> think we did pretty well for ourselves.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are no privileges to membership, apart from blocking (and a
>> currently entirely theoretical first dibs on hacker shelves).  Anyone
>> can ask anyone to leave. Or at least, that used to be the case.
>>
>> I'm a bit disturbed that the direction we're taking seem to be taking
>> powers *away* from visitors to Noisebridge.
>>
>> d.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Because the anti-harassment policy predates the associate members
>> > existence,
>> > and I don't know the rules around associate members well.  Did the
>> > meeting
>> > in which we created them give them all the privileges of NB membership
>> > EXCEPT the block, or did it specifically just give them the ability to
>> > be in
>> > the space?  If it's the former, then any member would be able to remove
>> > them.  This would be nice, since there should (theoretically) always be
>> > a
>> > member in the space anytime we have people there.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Why does it need a "capital M" member?
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > "Trolling" is a deceptively benign term.  If anyone sees someone put
>> >> > up
>> >> > similar fliers again, please grab a capital-M-member and have them
>> >> > ask
>> >> > that
>> >> > person to leave and never come back.  This behavior is clearly
>> >> > covered
>> >> > by
>> >> > our anti-harassment policy, and as a result doesn't require consensus
>> >> > to
>> >> > ban.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "It's nothing bitch shut up" isn't well-meaning, it's just trolling.
>> >> >> Take
>> >> >> the flyer down, toss it, and continue hacking. But do message the
>> >> >> list
>> >> >> again
>> >> >> if this anonymous coward keeps putting them up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Al
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM, johny radio <johnyradio at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> i'm wondering if this person was some well-meaning activist trying
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> start a discussion.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> or trying to set a honey trap. Yes, i agree with you Jake.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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