[Noisebridge-discuss] Close noisebridge, to fix noisebridge

LinkReincarnate linkreincarnate at gmail.com
Sun Jun 2 19:03:58 UTC 2013


No.  Becuase Im sure that a log of who comes and goes in a hackerspace
would give the feds an orgasm.
On Jun 2, 2013 11:36 AM, "Ian Sidle" <ian at iansidle.com> wrote:

> I know that in some ways this is a drastic re-thinking of how noise bridge
> works, but hear me out.
>
> Here is one idea - give everyone ID/time-cards and except for public
> events, require everyone to use it.
> We can start out with something as crude/simple as little laminated slips
> of paper with a printed barcode on it and when people forget it, they
> "login" at the kiosk.
>
> What will this help with?
> 1)This will help us identify people who are using NoiseBridge to sleep and
> other non-excellent things.
> 2)Help us identify people who are spending a ton of time in the space
> without contributing
> 3)Allows us to acknowledge the people who are contributing with their
> time/labor to the space.
> 4)People who want to support the space as Financial members can continue
> to do so.
> 5)People can pay X dollars/hour to use the space without becoming "full"
> members, if they only need it a little bit.
> 6)People who are visiting the first time will register and they get X
> hours right off the back so they can jump right in.
>
>
> For people that are "volunteer" members, then it records the time they
> spend using the space and the time they spend volunteering at the space.
> For example, One hour of helping out gives you Four hours of time in the
> space (Obviously, at the big meeting we will want to discuss what's a fair
> ratio- probably will become a long discussion).
> Someone else signs off verifying that you did the actually did help out
> for the time claimed, so there is some accountability but it's peer based
> not some rigid bureaucratic structure.
> If someone goes crazy and signs off on everything with them, then a
> discussion is had with them and/or their signing permission is revoked.
>
>
> If you are a full paying member, then you get "unlimited" hours and
> (optionally) your time spent isn't logged.
> This will provide an incentive for people to join who are privacy
> conscious.
> Once they have been vouched through the process, many will know them by
> name by then and it would become mostly peer level enforcement at that
> point.
>
> Ultimately, the purpose of this is to provide a fair way for new/visiting
> people to use the space and leaving people who are regulars alone.
> This is more about keeping people accountable and not about making a
> billing system.
> Short of having crazy interlocking doors, there is no way we can force
> everyone to sign in/out anyway.
> However,  I think everyone should have the right to ask "Did you forget to
> sign in?" and verify that they did.
>
> People who know the regulars, this won't require much change their routine
> much and we can give them  brightly colored badges (or something) so it's
> obvious.
>
> I think it would be best to set it up so people get notified when someone
> cross over what is communally decided as unfair limits and then someone has
> discussion with them (although obviously hard limits can also be set as
> well)
>
> Could be as simple as a obnoxious/embarrassing noise that alerts everyone
> in the space that this person is a leecher (as well as a sensor to detect
> when someone walks in without signing in).
>
> If someone is doing cool stuff but doesn't have time/money to contribute
> to the space, then there can be a community meeting and it will be decided
> if they deserve an "honorary membership" or what have you.
>
> I'm just throwing this idea out there and we will see if anyone likes it.
>
> I know It's a compromise but  as long as everyone views this from the
> perspective of "keeping people honest" then I think it can work.
>
> Naturally, There would be a lot of little details that would need to be
> ironed out before moving forward.
>
>
> thanks,
> Ian
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