[Noisebridge-discuss] Thoughts on establishing commitment to NB

Josh Juran jjuran at gmail.com
Wed Jun 5 02:44:10 UTC 2013

On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Leif Ryge wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 03:03:46AM -0700, Eric W. Rasmussen wrote:
>> HA!
>> I stopped by last week and noticed that my Money Box locks have been
>> circumvented.
>> The donation box that I built for the t-shirts remains, but the
>> cable/lock is gone.
>> I made a lock and cable for the front door donation box.  The cable
>> has been cut. The box has been broken because no one has the keys
>> for the lock. I tried to give Danny the keys to the boxes last year
>> but he wouldn't accept them. I tried to give the keys to Snail
>> (President) but she looked at me like I was an inconvenience.
>> Knowing this, it would not be difficult to walk in and walk out with
>> a donation box.
>> Regards
> Even before the lid on the plastic box was broken, it was possible to
> reach inside past the cable lock you installed, but for some  
> reason, the
> lid quickly got broken too. But the lock remained for quite a long  
> time.
> If you couldn't get someone to accept the keys, why would you leave  
> the
> lock there? Was it because you knew the lock wouldn't stop the box  
> from
> being emptied? Did you think potential thieves would see a trivially
> circumventable lock and be discouraged from stealing the money?
> I think that the lock was *encouraging* rather than discouraging  
> theft,
> so a few weeks ago (after someone told me they were concerned that the
> box was not secure) I finally cut the cable off the box.

I would prefer you raising these concerns *before* taking destructive  
action, not weeks after.

>> On 06/04/2013 02:21 AM, Jake wrote:
>>> As if that weren't bad enough, i KNOW people steal money from both
>>> the t-shirt donation box and the noisebridge donation box.  We
>>> don't empty them nearly often enough and really, it's pretty
>>> pathetic how poor our cashbox security is considering we're
>>> supposed to be hackers.
> [...]
> I'm a hacker who thinks physically securing a cashbox is a difficult
> problem and it is easier to have a low-security box and empty it
> frequently. I agree we don't empty it nearly often enough; I've  
> done it
> a few times and I'll try to do it more frequently.

Personally, I refuse to leave cash in the space at all anymore, and  
instead hand it directly to someone I trust to deposit it.


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