[Noisebridge-discuss] Thoughts on establishing commitment to NB

Alex Buie alex.buie at frozenfeline.net
Wed Jun 5 03:06:04 UTC 2013


As an aside, is there an easy way for anyone to help empty the money and
deposit it, or does it need to be done by specific people (board?)?


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Josh Juran <jjuran at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Leif Ryge wrote:
>
>  On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 03:03:46AM -0700, Eric W. Rasmussen wrote:
>>
>>> HA!
>>>
>>> I stopped by last week and noticed that my Money Box locks have been
>>> circumvented.
>>>
>>> The donation box that I built for the t-shirts remains, but the
>>> cable/lock is gone.
>>>
>>> I made a lock and cable for the front door donation box.  The cable
>>> has been cut. The box has been broken because no one has the keys
>>> for the lock. I tried to give Danny the keys to the boxes last year
>>> but he wouldn't accept them. I tried to give the keys to Snail
>>> (President) but she looked at me like I was an inconvenience.
>>>
>>> Knowing this, it would not be difficult to walk in and walk out with
>>> a donation box.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>
>> Even before the lid on the plastic box was broken, it was possible to
>> reach inside past the cable lock you installed, but for some reason, the
>> lid quickly got broken too. But the lock remained for quite a long time.
>>
>> If you couldn't get someone to accept the keys, why would you leave the
>> lock there? Was it because you knew the lock wouldn't stop the box from
>> being emptied? Did you think potential thieves would see a trivially
>> circumventable lock and be discouraged from stealing the money?
>>
>> I think that the lock was *encouraging* rather than discouraging theft,
>> so a few weeks ago (after someone told me they were concerned that the
>> box was not secure) I finally cut the cable off the box.
>>
>
> I would prefer you raising these concerns *before* taking destructive
> action, not weeks after.
>
>
>  On 06/04/2013 02:21 AM, Jake wrote:
>>>
>>>> As if that weren't bad enough, i KNOW people steal money from both
>>>> the t-shirt donation box and the noisebridge donation box.  We
>>>> don't empty them nearly often enough and really, it's pretty
>>>> pathetic how poor our cashbox security is considering we're
>>>> supposed to be hackers.
>>>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> I'm a hacker who thinks physically securing a cashbox is a difficult
>> problem and it is easier to have a low-security box and empty it
>> frequently. I agree we don't empty it nearly often enough; I've done it
>> a few times and I'll try to do it more frequently.
>>
>
> Personally, I refuse to leave cash in the space at all anymore, and
> instead hand it directly to someone I trust to deposit it.
>
> Josh
>
>
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